But of course you can't prove it because it will not be published. To quote from SIGCSE CC2001: http://www.sigcse.org/cc2001/cs-introductory-courses.html
"In fact, the problems of the programming-first approach can be exacerbated in the objects-first model because many of the languages used for object-oriented programming in industry -- particularly C++, but to a certain extent Java as well -- are significantly more complex than classical languages. Unless instructors take special care to introduce the material in a way that limits this complexity, such details can easily overwhelm introductory students." In other words don't start with programming. And if you do, don't start with C++/Java. And if you do, you've been warned. -----Original Message----- From: Lindsay Marshall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 15 January 2008 14:03 To: Michael Kölling; Walter Milner Cc: discuss@ppig.org Subject: RE: PPIG discuss: Programmer education ain't what it used to be >Do significant numbers of universities really plan like that? yes L. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- PPIG Discuss List (discuss@ppig.org) Discuss admin: http://limitlessmail.net/mailman/listinfo/discuss Announce admin: http://limitlessmail.net/mailman/listinfo/announce PPIG Discuss archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/discuss%40ppig.org/