On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 5:53 PM, Morgan Redfield <[email protected]>wrote:

> I finally got this working. One of the machine's I was using was
> running Windows with the gnuradio port from
> http://www.joshknows.com/gnuradio_port. When I switched to Ubuntu the
> majority of my problems went away. I've got no idea what was going on
> with the Windows machine, but I never got any errors from it. The
> transmitted signal was just never very clean.
>
> I'm now able to use the benchmark_ofdm_tx and benchmark_ofdm_rx
> scripts to send packets between my N210s. While I was playing with the
> settings to get better throughput, I noticed that the SNR setting in
> benchmark_ofdm_rx.py seems to break things. As long as I don't use the
> --snr flag, everything works ok. If I use --snr with any value, I
> receive no packets. I can't even use --snr=30 (the default) without
> breaking things. Does anyone know why that would be?
>
> Thanks for all your help,
> Morgan


Glad you got it working!

As for the SNR setting, I'd have to look back at the code. I thought it was
just for one of the sync methods that we aren't using, so I didn't think it
mattered. Must be being used somewhere that I can't recall just now.

Tom




> On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 12:42 PM, Tom Rondeau <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 3:01 PM, Marcus D. Leech <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 11:24 PM, Morgan Redfield<[email protected]>
> >>>  wrote:
> >>> I found that centering my FFT on a frequency that's offset from what
> >>> I'm transmitting at will remove that central spike. I was able to
> >>> finally see the gap in the center of the OFDM boxcar and adjust that.
> >>> It looks like in my setup I have an offset of about 6kHz.
> >>>
> >>> My OFDM signal never seems to be more than about 10 dB above the noise
> >>> floor though. When I bump up the gain or tx-amplitude, everything gets
> >>> raised by the same amount. I'm still not able to demodulate packets,
> >>> and I think this is why. Do you have any advice about this?
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>> Morgan
> >
> > Try changing the receiver gain instead. If the noise floor is moving with
> > changes in the transmitter, then you are seeing non-linear effects in the
> > transmit chain, which is bad. This is the chief problem of OFDM in that
> you
> > need a good, linear PA to transmit with higher power for greater distance
> > (which is one reason LTE is using SC-FDMA in the handsets).
> >
> >>
> >> If changing the *TX* amplitude doesn't improve things, then perhaps the
> >> frequency offset is the problem.
> >>  I'm not much of an OFDM guy, but it seems to me if your OFDM "bins"
> >> aren't where they're supposed to be,
> >>  to less than a fraction of a bin-width, then there could be problems.
> >
> > The synchronization algorithms in OFDM correct for both fractional (inner
> > subcarrier) offset and integer (greater than a subcarrier) offset, but
> only
> > to an extent. So you can be off by a few subcarriers from the desired
> > frequency and have those corrected (I think we put in +/- 5 or 10), and
> the
> > fractional offset is also taken care of. The analysis of this shows that
> you
> > get a significant increase in BER if you are even slightly off carrier
> after
> > sync, so it's a very important part of the process (since OFDM depends on
> > things being orthogonal, any frequency offset destroys the
> orthogonality).
> >
> > Tom
> >
> >> Also, to confirm that your RX is sensitive enough, if there's a way you
> >> could generate a single-tone signal at
> >>  about -110dBm, directly connected to the RX, and see if you can see the
> >> tone in an FFT display.  If not then
> >>  you have RX sensitivity issues.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Marcus Leech
> >> Principal Investigator
> >> Shirleys Bay Radio Astronomy Consortium
> >> http://www.sbrac.org
> >>
> >>
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