Hey Guys,

I wrote a blind turbo equaliser for LDPC encoded data a few years ago in
GNU Radio, the code is probably pretty horrific, and it wasn't optimised
very well, but it worked as a proof on concept, I could dig out the code if
anyone was interested?

John


On Sat, Mar 1, 2014 at 10:33 AM, Jan Kraemer
<[email protected]>wrote:

>  Hey Nguyen Anh Duc,
>
> thanks for your input. It's nice to see that there seems to be some guys
> interested in the whole turbo EQ topic. These are some interesting points
> you mentioned. To be honest i never thought about using MLSE/MAP for the
> equalizer part. Same goes with another turbo decoder in the turbo equalizer
> cause I discarded them as to computationally heavy to be implemented in
> software.
>
> But it seems that right now there is greater need to speed up the
> gr-trellis module before attempting a full turbo equalizer.
>
> Best regards,
> Jan
> Am 28.02.2014 16:57, schrieb Anh Duc Nguyen:
>
> Dear Jan Krämer,
>
>  I am very interested in your proposal. However, to my best of knowledge,
> turbo equalizer (TB) is pretty complicated and  computationally heavy, then
> it is challenging to have an effective real-time implementation of TB. I
> would like to have some questions as follows:
>
>  1. Your ISI channels' characteristics: fixed/ known beforehand or
> time-variant, how dispersive they are
> 2. which techniques do you wish to use for equalizer part: MMSE, MAP, or
> MLSE?
> 3. coding: as you presented above - it may be a convolutional or turbo
> code, and others?
> 4. Some special hardware platform may require
> 5. why do you select 2. and 3. to have the best performance in terms of
> complexity or quality, and that combination is realistic to be real-time
> implemented in GnuRadio plus 4.
>
>  To be honest, I have desperately struggled these question for quite a
> long time, then you and some others can help work together to find the
> answers,
>
>  Best regards,
>  Nguyen Anh Duc
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 8:59 PM, Jan Krämer 
> <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>>  Hi everyone,
>>
>> I am a student at Communications Engineering Lab (CEL) at Karlsruhe
>> Institute of Technology. I major in "communication systems" and I am
>> currently doing my masterthesis on "Parallel log-map decoders for manycore
>> architectures". I am interested in participating in GSoC 2014.
>>
>> There is an older GNURadio GSoC proposal from 2013 to implement a turbo
>> equalizer module in GNURadio in which i am particularly interested working
>> on, as it is closely connected to my current field of study.
>> So i would like to share my thoughts on a possible Update of the old
>> turbo equalizer proposal (and maybe upgrading it to a current proposal ?).
>>
>> -------------------------------------------------------------
>> *Turbo Equalizer*
>>
>> A Turbo Equalizer is a receiver component that is highly effective when
>> receiving messages corrupted by Intersymbol Interference (ISI). To archive
>> this, the turbo equalizer uses an Equalizer to eliminate the ISI and a
>> Log-Map Decoder for Forward Error Correction. Both components pass soft
>> information to each other to increase the performance.
>>
>> *Objectives*
>>
>> Possible (sub-)projects:
>> 1. Implement the Log-Map decoder
>>     - preferably it can be fully configurable (constraint length, number
>> of states, trellis structure)
>>     - preferably optimized for real time applications
>> 2. Implement the linear equalizer
>>     - preferably optimized for real time applications
>>
>> *Skills*
>> Knowledge of digital signal processing, C/C++, Python
>>
>> *Potential mentor(s)*
>> Sebastian Koslowski, Michael Schwall
>>
>>
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> That would be a project I think would be really interesting to work on
>> and i think it fits well with some of the other proposals for new GNU Radio
>> Modules. As the turbo eq itself is a highly complex architecture, it could
>> also be beneficial to split the tasks in this project. It would be great to
>> get some feedback from you, if this was a proposal that would benefit
>> GNURadio and if it has the potential to be included in the GSoC list of
>> ideas.
>>
>> Thanks and regards,
>> Jan Krämer
>>
>>
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