Le 19 f�vr. 05, � 21:09, Gregory John Casamento a �crit :
And I, bored of tons of words about (unexisting) desktops and very tired for
years of work on a (existing) application, give up.
I don't think you should give up! Please don't. I believe that GWorkspace
should be the default desktop. Like every app in GNUstep it's improving daily
and like every app, it's not perfect *yet*, but it's getting there. I,
personally, think that you're doing a great job on it.
GWorkspace is looking for a new maintainer.
GWorkspace is currently the best option, I use it daily as my default file
browser. I believe that the rest of these efforts are still trying to catch
up.
I quite agree -- GWorkspace have the merit to works well _now_, and provides a NeXT workspace to the user. I don't think it's a good idea to abandon it, even if I understand your feelings about the recent enthusiast messages about �toil�.
Personally, I'm not entirely fond of GWorkspace for different reasons (mainly technicals) and I'm more interested by �toil� in the long run. But I don't see why you want to leave your project like that. After all, a lot of people use GWorkspace, while �toil� doesn't give you a workspace for the moment, even if a lot of code had been committed and a specific file manager is on the way (quentin?).
I mean, we're not in a proprietary world -- alternatives can exist ! the existence of one project doesn't obliterate the other, particularly when the goals aren't the same. if you think that way, well, too bad, but hey..
I explained in a previous mail my own "vision" of how things can work together with the user having the possibility to choose its own desktop/filemanager/component/etc. That mechanism is something that I want to implement, but as everybody, I have my own share of existing projects to complete before. I think my proposal would permit an easy integration of any projects in a same recognised "environment", which imho is a good thing for users.. But as always, talk is cheap, code isn't. I don't think people will code my proposal :-) -- I expect to do it, we'll see if that's interesting in the end.
In short.. I think it would be better to continue your project, but if you are upset because some people want to work on something else, well.. Everybody is free.
I vote for GWorkspace to be the default desktop for GNUstep.
er... I'm not sure GWorkspace is a desktop -- it's a file manager. A "desktop" for me is more than a file manager -- it's here to provides common HIG, frameworks, etc.
But I would welcome a desktop effort based on GWorkspace, for sure (even if I'm not sure how much the goals of such a desktop would overlap with backbone's goal.. but well.. considering the lack of progress on backbone during the last year...).
I'm interested by avoiding as much as possible duplication of efforts; but �toil� (as we're talking about it) doesn't want to clone GWorkspace. So I'm a bit perplex by your decision, even if I can understand it's annoying to have people talking about a would-be desktop while you are working alone on GWorkspace for so long.
-- Nicolas Roard "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." -Arthur C. Clarke
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