On Saturday 26 November 2005 12:57, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > My idea of a good desktop follows along the nextstep design and thats > it. Did Steve Jobs intend nextstep to be a good citizen of other > desktops? I dont think so. I dont know about openstep but it seems > that its not a good citizen of other desktops too. Maybe thats why > next was never able to make a sustainable business on it.
The problem with this is, that gnustep is not useable as a desktop at all right now. For instance, there is no browser, so you have to use Firefox or Konqueror or any other browser of your choice and gnustep apps and KDE/GNOME apps just don't work very well together because of issues like horizontal menu bar vs. vertical menubar. Furthermore, under KDE gnustep is basically not usable at all. The gnustep menu doesn't work correctly. I don't know if this is a kwin bug or a gnustep bug. And nextstep/openstep is dead for a long time. Without Steve Jobs noone would care for nextstp/openstep at all anymore. Steve Jobs did the right thing. He turned nextstep into something the average Joe user can and wants to use. Steve Jobs allways managed to make things that excite people. But gnustep is not exciting for the average Joe user. It is an excellent development framework based on an excellent language, but there are absolutely no applications which make it worth using gnustep, it looks ugly compared to MacOSX, KDE or GNOME (this is of course personal preference but I am quite sure if you ask 100 average computer users which look they like most, gnustep will be the loser by a wide margin), it interoperates badly with every other free desktop environement (which is bad because there are essential apps like a browser missing in gnustep) and it is hard to install. I wish there would be someone like Steve Jobs who could make gnustep more popular. It is such a nice framework based on a really nice language. But without a bigger community, gnustep will never gain enough momentum. And without some radical changes in look and feel and interoperability this will not happen. Greetings, Michael _______________________________________________ Discuss-gnustep mailing list Discuss-gnustep@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss-gnustep