Hi,
In my opinion GNUstep has to stop this it's just a development environment
thing and develop a desktop environment where GNUstep applications do not look
totaly out of place. GNUstep probably can't compete with KDE or GNOME but why
shouldn't it be possible to compete with something like XFCE or Equinox or one
of the other smaller OSS desktop environments. I think GNUstep needs to be
more attractive to KDE / GNOME / MacOS X. In my opinion these are the people
most likely to use GNUstep and if GNUstep attracts more users it will
automatically get more developers.
Well, although I would not write that, I think it is about correct. I
got angry and almost livid when Gregory started pointing out that.
We are a development environment. And a good one. But we are not "just
that".
On the other hand, GNUstep is not a Desktop Environment (I like it to
call it a Workspace). It should never be. Other projects can fill that
gap building up on GNUstep. Not by a total change the GNUstep
Application Project shortens to "GAP".
As you compare GTK and GNOME or GTK and XCFEl, that is gnustep. GNUstep
is a bit more than just GTK, it has also the developer tools and some
reference applications like SystemPreferences and GWorkspace, which are
totally optional!
SO you can use GNUstep with Etoile and get complete Desktop Environment.
On the other hand, GAP tries about the same. But since some applications
like the windowmanager exist (WindowMaker) it leverages on them (also to
retain easy compatibility with other X11 apps you currently use a lot
but will always, in a lesser degree, need to use: be it a Browser, an
Office Suite or just Skye).
GNUstep + Windowmaker + GAP
I do not exactly, other people can stand up, but the Backbone project
has about the same idea.
Of course each project has different philosphies, exaclty like XFce is
different from GNOME. It also means that you can run a standard GNustep
applicaiton inside Etoile.
Riccardo
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