Hi Fred,

I am thinking to start a project called "oPhone" in github to develop in it
all frameworks needed to have an open source smart phones, based on Linux
OS, Objective-C, GNUstep, Chameleon's UIKit, and Apple WebKit.

Also I am planning to put frameworks in bundles similar of Apple's Mac
bundles. e.g. as:
/system/library/frameworks/UIKit
/system/library/fonts
...

What do you think?
and is there anyone interested to join?

On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 1:22 AM, Fred Kiefer <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi Amr,
>
> it surely is better to reply to the mailing list as you will get responses
> from different people then.
>
> QuantumStep is the marketing name of Nikolaus Schallers fork of GNUstep.
> The name of the basic code (Foundation and AppKit) is mySTEP. In most
> regards this is a bit more limited than GNUstep, but there are also areas
> where his code is more complete. I don't think that he is currently offering
> anything similar to the UIKit, but will ask him in my next mail, as we have
> an ongoing mail exchange.
>
> CoreAnimation is itself the missing part, we don't have an implementation
> of that framework in GNUstep or any of our related projects. With that in
> place you could use Chameleon to get UIKit based application to run on
> GNUstep. Part of CoreAnimation should be simple to implement but other parts
> require drawing functionality we currently don't have in the underlying
> drawing system. And all of it will be a lot of work :-(
>
> CoreAnimation is used to implement UIKit (and Chameleon). AppKit is rather
> independent of CoreAnimation.
>
> Hope this helps
> Fred
>
>
> On 28.06.2011 00:59, Amr Aboelela wrote:
>
>> Fred,
>>
>> So later you guys are going to use Chameleon framework as a start to
>> build your own UIKit framework?
>>
>> what about QuantumStep is it related to building the UIKit also?
>>
>> what do u mean by the missing part of CoreAnimation, is CoreAnimation
>> only in UIKit and not AppKit?
>> and isn't it implemented in the Chameleon implementation?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> On Sun, Jun 26, 2011 at 2:49 PM, Fred Kiefer <[email protected]
>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>
>>    At the FOSDEM this year we decided to start a GNUsep sub project to
>>    implement UIKit. And just a few weeks later we learned about UIKit:
>>
>>    http://chameleonproject.org/
>>
>>    This made us stop our own efforts in this direction. I think nobody
>>    ever tried to use this code on top of GNUstep gui and you will need
>>    the missing bit CoreAnimation for this. But implementing that should
>>    be easier than an full UIKit implementation.
>>
>>    Hope this helps
>>    Fred
>>
>>
>>    On 24.06.2011 02 <tel:24.06.2011%2002>:50, Amr Aboelela wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>        ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>        From: *Adam Fedor* <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>        <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>>
>>        Date: Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 5:48 PM
>>        Subject: Re: UIKit
>>        To: Amr Aboelela <[email protected]
>>        <mailto:[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]
>>        <mailto:[email protected]>**>__>
>>
>>
>>
>>        It would be a good idea to mail the [email protected]
>>        <mailto:discuss-gnustep@gnu.**org <[email protected]>>
>>        <mailto:discuss-gnustep@gnu.__**org
>>        <mailto:discuss-gnustep@gnu.**org <[email protected]>>>
>> mailing list to ask this question.
>>
>>          There are various people implementing various parts of the
>>        framework.
>>
>>
>>        On Jun 23, 2011, at 6:32 PM, Amr Aboelela wrote:
>>
>>         >
>>         > Hi Adam,
>>         >
>>         > I was wondering if the GNUstep team are intending to develop
>>        a framework
>>         > similar to the Cocoa Touch UIKit to be used in mobile phones.
>>        Also are we
>>         > allowed to make a framework similar to UIKit with same class
>>        names,
>>        example
>>         > UIView, UITableView, or do we have to use different names?
>>         >
>>         > Thanks
>>
>
>


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