Hi Gerold, Am 25.10.2012 um 13:17 schrieb Gerold Rupprecht:
> Hi Lars, > > Thanks for your efforts. > > Can you say anything about the selection criteria? I had submitted a request for a devroom for another project and got almost verbatim the same answer. There is no clear statement about rules, except: >>> Our goal is to stimulate developer >>> collaboration and cross-pollination between projects. So I think a single project or even several has lower chances than a "topic". And, available space is always an important criterion. > > We have enjoyed FOSDEM presence since the beginning so I am interested > to know why the organizers are giving preference to others. What can we > do to make our project have greater value for FOSDEM? I think with these criteria mentioned above, we can do nothing. We can't transform our project into a "general topic". We can only organize our own "mini-conference". > These people are putting in a tremendous effort at organizing, finding > sponsors, volonteers and I really appreciate their efforts. It has > always been a highlight for me to meet other people interested in > GNUstep each year at FOSDEM. Well, from the organizer's viewpoint we can still do that. Just not in a devroom provided by them. > One thing that comes to mind is the often difficult access to our code > within various distributions /OSs. The code which is available has often > been in a frustrating state where getting the code up and running. > > Are reviewers finding it difficult and time-consuming? > > What are the FOSDEM organizers looking at? I don't think they are looking into any code. > > We have even had the support of Richard Stallman for our project, so I > am still convinced GNUstep has strategic value for Free Software. Yes, but it is one of >20 (or more) strategic projects. I don't see any other FSF project on the list of the accepted devrooms (I may have missed it). > > What are the other projects doing that presents them as being a better > investment for their time and resources than our project? They address a broader audience. Look, not even Debian or Fedora has its own devroom. They have to share "Cross Distro". FOSDEM has simply grown faster than the audience of our project... > > Can we set a priority to fill in the gaps to again meet their > standards? > > I have great admiration for the current and past contributors to GNUstep > and the overall quality of work. We have had investments from Google > summer of code for a number of contributions, so technically, I have no > doubt as to the value of the produced code. > > The current efforts to creating debian packaging that is more current is > a good move in the right direction (big thanks to all contributors). > Would more automatic regression tests be of help to get better ratings? FOSDEM does IMHO only look into importance of a topic for mankind. > > Any thoughts and suggestions would be most welcome. > > Would it be appropriate for us to graft ourselves onto the Testing and > Automation group (Saturday) or the Configuration / Systems Management > group (Sunday) this year? > > What is the interest to organize a meeting nearby to FOSDEM? This has crossed over with my other proposal for getting a conference room @ some hotel nearby :) > I really want to see GNUstep at FOSDEM again. And I want to meet the GNUsteppers during FOSDEM time :) > > All comments and suggestions welcome. > > Thanks, Nikolaus > > > Gerold > -- > Gerold Rupprecht > 10, rue Louis-Curval > CH-1206 Genève, Suisse > > Mobile: +41 79 914 29 52 > > On jeu, 2012-10-25 at 12:29 +0200, Lars Sonchocky-Helldorf wrote: >> Sadly we are not among them :-( >> >> >> Lars >> >> Anfang der weitergeleiteten E-Mail: >> >>> Von: [email protected] >>> >>> Datum: 25. Oktober 2012 12:00:01 MESZ >>> >>> An: [email protected] >>> >>> Betreff: FOSDEM Digest, Vol 66, Issue 2 >>> >>> Antwort an: [email protected] >>> >>> >>> Send FOSDEM mailing list submissions to >>> [email protected] >>> >>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >>> https://lists.fosdem.org/listinfo/fosdem >>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >>> [email protected] >>> >>> You can reach the person managing the list at >>> [email protected] >>> >>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >>> than "Re: Contents of FOSDEM digest..." >>> Today's Topics: >>> >>> 1. Accepted devrooms (Tias Guns) >>> >>> Von: Tias Guns <[email protected]> >>> >>> Datum: 24. Oktober 2012 21:27:48 MESZ >>> >>> An: Fosdem Announce <[email protected]> >>> >>> Betreff: [FOSDEM] Accepted devrooms >>> >>> >>> >>> Devrooms are 'developer rooms' in which open source communities can >>> organize their own schedule, made of presentations, brainstorming >>> and hacking sessions. Our goal is to stimulate developer >>> collaboration and cross-pollination between projects. >>> >>> It is our pleasure and honor to announce that the following projects >>> and topics have been granted a devroom at FOSDEM 2013: >>> >>> Both Days >>> --------- >>> * Cross Distro >>> * CrossDesktop >>> * Embedded and Mobile >>> * Free Java >>> * Legal Issues >>> * Mozilla >>> >>> Saturday >>> -------- >>> * Apache OpenOffice >>> * Community development and Marketing >>> * FOSS for scientists >>> * Graph Processing >>> * Jabber/XMPP >>> * Microkernels / Component-based OSes >>> * Mono >>> * PHP and Friends >>> * Testing and Automation >>> * The Wine Project >>> * Virtualization >>> * X.org >>> >>> Sunday >>> ------ >>> * Ada >>> * BSD >>> * Cloud >>> * Configuration/Systems Management >>> * Cross Distro >>> * LibreOffice >>> * MySQL & Friends >>> * NOSQL >>> * Open Source Game Development >>> * PostgreSQL >>> * Python >>> * Smalltalk >>> * Telephony >>> >>> >>> In the coming weeks, they will announce their call for talks on >>> various mailinglists (including this one). We will collect them on >>> our website as well. >>> >>> We will also open our call for stands (a place in the hallway) and >>> lightningtalks (15 minute talks) in the coming week. >>> >>> >>> On behalf of the FOSDEM program team, >>> Tias >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> FOSDEM mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://lists.fosdem.org/listinfo/fosdem >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Discuss-gnustep mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss-gnustep > > > _______________________________________________ > Discuss-gnustep mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss-gnustep _______________________________________________ Discuss-gnustep mailing list [email protected] https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss-gnustep
