thanks Dave, I wasn't aware that ProjectManager was a window manager. I've just gotten into the SVN tree and taken a look at it. I'll probably end up contributing either to ProjectManager or Window Maker. Definitely looks like other people are having similar ideas.
On 20 March 2013 07:22, David Chisnall <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi James, > > Since you're already aware of Étoilé, don't forget that we have > ProjectManager in subversion, which is an unfinished window manager that > intends to be visually minimalist. > > David > > On 19 Mar 2013, at 16:27, James Carthew <[email protected]> wrote: > > > It's things like X11 applications being allowed to be dragged over the > menubar (stopping this from happening), certain menu behaviour that I've > noticed in Window Maker, inconsistency in Window Maker's right click menus > when used with themes in GNUstep, a system preferences panel etc. mainly > aesthetic issues etc. Mainly a way to detect the menu location and stopping > other apps from writing over it. Admittedly a way to handle non gnustep > applications so they get a macintosh style menu would be nice, even if it > was just having the program name appear on the horizontal menubar at the > top of the screen. I'm happy to have a look at coding some of these > features. Ideally there would be a web browser to go with this but I would > probably just try to resurrect Mantella from Etoile rather than coding the > entire webkit engine, as I just don't have the knowledge to complete a > project of that size. I'm also trying to rework parts of GSMplayer as I > previously worked on gnome-mplayer and with about 5 patches made that > project popular (tv tuner support, language/subtitle selection, aspect > ratio support etc in the gui). I'd like to get to a point where I can fire > up X11/GNUstep and not need third party apps unless I have an unusual task > (think gimp/music production etc) since most of my desktop usage is > internet browsing, irc, chat and music/videos. > > > > > > On 20 March 2013 06:56, James Carthew <[email protected]> wrote: > > It's things like X11 applications being allowed to be dragged over the > menubar (stopping this from happening), certain menu behaviour that I've > noticed in Window Maker, inconsistency in Window Maker's right click menus > when used with themes in GNUstep, a system preferences panel etc. mainly > aesthetic issues etc. Mainly a way to detect the menu location and stopping > other apps from writing over it. Admittedly a way to handle non gnustep > applications so they get a macintosh style menu would be nice, even if it > was just having the program name appear on the horizontal menubar at the > top of the screen. I'm happy to have a look at coding some of these > features. Ideally there would be a web browser to go with this but I would > probably just try to resurrect Mantella from Etoile rather than coding the > entire webkit engine, as I just don't have the knowledge to complete a > project of that size. I'm also trying to rework parts of GSMplayer as I > previously worked on gnome-mplayer and with about 5 patches made that > project popular (tv tuner support, language/subtitle selection, aspect > ratio support etc in the gui). I'd like to get to a point where I can fire > up X11/GNUstep and not need third party apps unless I have an unusual task > (think gimp/music production etc) since most of my desktop usage is > internet browsing, irc, chat and music/videos. > > > > > > On 20 March 2013 01:44, Riccardo Mottola <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Hi James, > > > > > > On 03/18/13 22:45, James Carthew wrote: > > Hi guys, I'm interested in using GNUstep as a desktop environment and > I'd like to make the system a bit more integrated with the window manager > etc. I've noticed that there are three ways to use the GUI environment as > Windows style, Mac OSX style and as the older NEXT stye, but the Window > managers available only seem to cater for the Windows or NEXT styles of > window management. I'd like to write a newer window manager that handles > configuration using the Defaults system and which would support better > integration/awareness of the horizontal menu bar when it's enabled. Would > anyone else be interested in this project? > > What is exactly your need and your desire? Do you want windowmaker and > GS to blend better and what "features" do you need in windowmaker? O do you > want GS to blend in environment X, where is is gnome, unity, whatever? > Usually those will have their windowmanager. > > > > Personally I can live quite well with WindowMaker, it is suboptimal, in > that it uses WINGs and essentially the only thing I miss would be a > preferences app written in GNUstep itself. In al later stage, use GS to > "draw" things in windowmaker (like its menus) using GNUste, so that you > would end up having only "one" draw code, thus that colors, fonts and > themes would apply altogether. > > But I put these projects in the "low priority" list for now. > > > > I may ad also that GS could do almost without windowmanager, the support > it needs is very minimal: it can draw its own window decorations. It needs > support in X11 for window ordering, events, focus. But you still want to > have a "full" windowmanager otherwise you could not have other applications > running along (e.g. Firefox) > > > > Riccardo > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Discuss-gnustep mailing list > > [email protected] > > https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss-gnustep > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Discuss-gnustep mailing list > > [email protected] > > https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss-gnustep > > > > -- Send from my Jacquard Loom > >
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