On 8 May 2013 21:36, Sebastian Reitenbach <[email protected]> wrote: > > On Wednesday, May 8, 2013 22:11 CEST, Liam Proven <[email protected]> wrote: > >> On 8 May 2013 18:41, Sebastian Reitenbach <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> > >> > On Wednesday, May 8, 2013 17:32 CEST, Liam Proven <[email protected]> >> > wrote: >> > >> >> This may be a silly question - forgive me if so. >> >> >> >> Is there a current GNUstep-based distribution, at all? >> >> >> >> I have been experimenting with Window Maker and many of the GNUstep >> >> apps recently, but my efforts to find a desktop distro based around >> >> this have been in vain. I am aware of Window Maker Live and Simply >> >> GNUstep, but both are now very dated indeed. >> > >> > If you don't mind running BSD, there is OpenBSD ;) >> >> It's not that I /mind/ running BSD, but the last couple of times I >> tried FreeBSD -- generally regarded as easier, friendlier & more >> compatible than OpenBSD -- I couldn't even get it to open a TCP/IP >> connection or install X.11, let alone anything else. > > The last times I tried Free or NetBSD, I ended up in horrible adventures ;) > But maybe I'm just too used to the ease of use and the sane defaults in > OpenBSD ;) > > X is included in the base system, and usually "just works". > I own a lot of machines, and on none of them, I have to tweak Xorg.conf > Also with networking, you just configure it via installing, and you are done.
Interesting! I will download it and give it a try. I have an old Thinkpad that is not very compatible - Linux runs on it, not well, and Windows, and FreeBSD and /nothing/ else. All alternative OSes I have tried will not boot. I may give OpenBSD a go! :¬) >> Meanwhile, Ubuntu is the world's second most popular desktop *nix >> these days, after Mac OS X. In my experience and recent experiments, >> its compatibility and ease of installation is considerably better than >> that of its parent Debian, and as such, it is roughly 15y more >> advanced, sophisticated and polished than FreeBSD. Of OpenBSD, I >> cannot say. >> >> I've only been using, installing, supporting and maintaining Unix >> systems since 1988, though, so I am still a bit of a newbie. >> >> So, realistically, no, sorry, but OpenBSD is not a realistic option. >> In my professional assessment, the *buntu family is currently the most >> mature and widely-supported free desktop OS. OpenSUSE is a bit of a >> bloated mess with a rather horrible package manager, Fedora is a >> rolling alpha-test, Slackware is deliberately primitive, and most of >> the others are far too immature. It's Ubuntu or nothing. >> >> Saying that, I will have a go at getting the OpenBSD GNUstep desktop >> up and running in a virtual machine, if only to have a look at the >> dependencies. > > If you do not want to install, take a look here: > http://readme.portsbug.me.uk/cat/x11/gnustep Thanks for the info. >> >> I have also found that the GWorkSpace app seems to conflict with >> >> Window Maker itself - you get two Docks, for instance, one positioned >> >> top-left in NeXT style and one centred, Mac OS X style. However, I >> >> can't find how to add icons to the GWorkSpace dock, nor how to >> >> customise its menus, so I have been more or less forced to base my >> >> exploratory efforts around Window Maker, which offers quite good >> >> customisability. >> > >> > >> > A GWorkspace user-guide, you may find here: >> > http://gnustep.made-it.com/Guides/GWorkspace.html >> >> Thank you. >> >> I have already read it, actually. AFAICS it does not answer any of my >> questions, such as how to add apps to the Dock or how to customise the >> desktop menu. If you have any pointers there, I would really >> appreciate them! > > You can just drag 'n drop the .app folders from the FileViewer to the Dock. Aha! But perhaps only .app folders? I will try it again. I could not drag ordinary Linux applications to it, this I had found... > About the menus, I don't know. OK, fair enough. Thanks for the information! -- Liam Proven • Profile: http://lproven.livejournal.com/profile Email: [email protected] • GMail/G+/Twitter/Flickr/Facebook: lproven MSN: [email protected] • Skype/AIM/Yahoo/LinkedIn: liamproven Tel: +44 20-8685-0498 • Cell: +44 7939-087884 _______________________________________________ Discuss-gnustep mailing list [email protected] https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss-gnustep
