Hi,
On 09/26/13 12:47, David Chisnall wrote:
Hi,
I recently gave a little demo of an app that I'd written for exploring
debugging stream traces for our processor, and one of the comments was 'Oh, you
wrote it using TK?'. I'd like to take some screenshots and also record a video
of the demo I gave at FOSDEM, but I don't want people to be put off by the
applications looking ugly.
So, my question is: do we have a single theme that works, is complete, and
doesn't look like a throwback to the early '90s?
In Étoilé we have:
- Nesedah, where we spent a lot of effort getting the mockups right but then
hit problems with how GNUstep handles frames and borders and couldn't implement
it correctly
- Narcissus, which looks okay except when you have a table view (because the
headers are white on light grey). I'd fix this if the theme support were
documented sufficiently well for me to be able to work out how...
- Aristo2, which got off to a promising start at the DevMeeting is unfinished.
The Silver theme looks okay, so maybe it's a good choice, although still a bit
dated.
GAP offers a limited set of themes. Your asking for "complete" is hard,
since while implementing I hit several limits in creating themes with
thematic.. which result in parts not being implements as I wished.
The only close to complete themes I can offer are:
- Sleek. Either you like it or you hate it and I think for you it is the
latter. I am still tweaking a couple of details before at least a "0.1
release". A 0.2 release needs a new look in the menus, in the design I
envisioned, but I need to learn to do that!
- Neos. The only theme hitting a 0.1 release in GAP. Some people like
it, I don't love it anymore.. I did some mockups, but when I saw it
finished and complete in acutal applications like GWorkspace, it is too
strong. Also, you will find it dated, because it is very NeXTish
actually. I'm studying an updated 0.2 release from what I have learned
in Sleek, but it will take time to redo all the icon set in a different
color palette.
I don't have more radical themes in the pipeline, because I want to see
these themes working first.
On a related note, I accidentally set the colour of one of my views (the
background colour of an NSTableView, if this makes a difference) in Gorm. How
do I set it back to the theme default, for whatever the loaded theme is?
As we discussed privately, I think Gorm would need a "set to default"
option (=unset in certain cases) to allow reset choices, since setting a
certain color is not the same as using a system default, now that we
have themes. Here we differ from Apple!
I will soon ask again for certain stuff in themes to complete them.
Riccardo
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