I would suggest this: take the difference of OS X 10.0 and NeXTSTEP 3.5, and reverse this patch using the look and feel of OS X 10.11 as the starting point.
Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 4, 2015, at 13:00, Gregory Casamento <[email protected]> wrote: > > Liam, > >> On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 10:35 AM, Liam Proven <[email protected]> wrote: >> On 29 November 2015 at 22:51, Riccardo Mottola >> <[email protected]> wrote: >>> I agree on that statement! the problem is that the whole thread here shows >>> that nobody here agrees with the other one on how to improve it. Some say >>> look, some say application, some say configuration tools, some want this, >>> that, whatever. > > Actually, I think Riccardo's assertion is utterly wrong and foments > confusion. I don't think there's much disagreement on many of the > points which were raised. > >> And that is the key thing. >> >> If we can get more exposure for GNUstep, get it in front of more >> people, get it better known, then it will get more interest, more code >> contributions, more development. >> >> I don't want to change it. Improve it, yes. Change it, no. >> >> I am not a programmer. I am not at all interested in the programming >> tools or the use of GNUstep as a framework. That is for others who >> know and care about such things. >> >> I'm in part interested in it because it looks like NeXTstep, and I >> think NeXTstep is the best-looking desktop there has ever been. So I >> am strongly opposed to those who want new themes: I think it already >> is nearly perfect and all the alternative themes are less attractive, >> to me. > > GNUstep's NeXT look and roots will never disappear, ever. What I am > advocating is a better, redesigned and improved look for GNUstep. > I'm thinking something like NeXT would have done today. I believe > that conveys the meaning. > >> What I suggest is just getting it running well on Ubuntu. I'm not >> really interested in Debian or any other distros, and less interested >> in other OSes. Not that I do not want it to work on them -- I very >> much do -- but I like and favour Ubuntu. >> >> I want to make an Ubuntu GNUstep remix. Not a live CD -- there is less >> need for those now that we have VMs. >> >> I do have a Raspberry Pi; I run RISC OS on it. I am not remotely >> interested in PiStep, or NeXT-shaped Pi cases. Frankly they sound >> silly to me. As a GNU project, a kickstarter seems strange and >> irrelevant to me, but hey, people need paying for their efforts. I am >> not interested in running GNUstep on $DISTRO on Raspberry Pi, because >> my Pi is the least powerful, least capable modern computer I own; >> everything else is faster, has more storage, is more expandable, etc. > > I think piOS is interesting because it uses GNUstep and we have a > group of people who are genuinely interested in helping to make things > using our stuff. Beggars cannot be choosers. > >> But Debian/Ubuntu packages -- better still, upstream inclusion -- >> would help everyone, whether they want "modern" themes or better dev >> tools or desktops for tiny cheap computers. Even if you don't use >> Debian/Ubuntu or even Linux at all, more users and more developers >> would be good for the project. >> >> >> -- >> Liam Proven • Profile: http://lproven.livejournal.com/profile >> Email: [email protected] • GMail/G+/Twitter/Flickr/Facebook: lproven >> MSN: [email protected] • Skype/AIM/Yahoo/LinkedIn: liamproven >> Cell/Mobiles: +44 7939-087884 (UK) • +420 702 829 053 (ČR) >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Discuss-gnustep mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss-gnustep > > > > -- > Gregory Casamento > GNUstep Lead Developer / OLC, Principal Consultant > http://www.gnustep.org - http://heronsperch.blogspot.com > http://ind.ie/phoenix/ > > _______________________________________________ > Discuss-gnustep mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss-gnustep _______________________________________________ Discuss-gnustep mailing list [email protected] https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss-gnustep
