I agree with everything you said. Email is emotionless and heartless and a very poor medium for exchange. When someone says "I love you" in text it doesn't translate. You don't hear the passion and emotion.
I love your email and everything in it. I agree 100%. And I thank you for your sentiments. On behalf of myself, you're very welcome. I do it because I love it and I want others to love it too. GC On Sun, Jul 18, 2021 at 7:34 PM Gustavo Tavares <[email protected]> wrote: > This isn’t my project. I do however love GNUstep. Also, I think I know a > thing or two about community and people. > > The written word leaves out so much emotion and compassion that the spoken > word can’t include. > > My suggestion: would be great to have a monthly or quarterly “Zoom” party > (GNU-equivalent) that is time limited to one hour. > > First party could celebrate all of Fred’s contributions and whatever role > he chooses jn the transition. > > Would also love to have little breakout rooms where people can chit chat, > talk shop, side projects, in a more intimate fashion. > > If you’re doing it for fun, make sure you have a party! Work is part of > it. But fun should be too. > > Thank you Fred, Ricardo, Greg and everyone else who has worked on this > project. > > It is amazing—warts and all. Im so happy to have found this 2 years ago > and I look forward to using it far into the future. > > Awesome work! :) Long live the spotted whale :) 🐳 > > On Sun, Jul 18, 2021, at 6:06 PM, Riccardo Mottola wrote: > > Hello Fred, > > On 2021-07-16 23:34:03 +0200 Fred Kiefer <[email protected]> wrote: > > > as some of you may have noticed I was on a break from the project for > > some time. This hiatus was caused by the way Greg reacted on the mail > > from Johannes on RMS. Just to state the obvious, I think that Johannes > > was wrong here, still he deserved a friendlier reply. I was not > > surprised that Johannes choose to quit the project. The tone on the > > GNUstep mailing lists, and sadly on many free software projects, is > > often very unfriendly. > > I noticed it and I am sad about this. I did not like Johannes' > considerations and was hurt by them - also because at the same time I > read similar discussions on several Mailinglists of OS projects I am > involved in. > In this specific case, I think Greg's answer was appropriate, but in > other cases the tones on the mailing list weren't nice either, so I > guess it is more the last drop in the bowl. > > What I dislike especially is that these discussions and reactions that > came from them overshadowed a very important thing, the release we did > this year is one of the best we ever did. The work on MinGW-2 and > 64bit, the fixes in Big Endian encoding and many others are amazing > and we should be proud of them, but things were put in the background. > The high quality of this release is thanks to you too, Fred, as well > as Richard. We collaborated all together and it is to be proud of. > > > After this I needed some time to think about what my role in such a > > project should be. Why would I subject myself to treatments in my > > spare > > time that I would not accept in a payed position? > > I have to agree with you - there is not much fun left in the > discussion of our mailing lists, but also generally in other projects. > I think these hard past two years stressed all our souls, including > mine, making us more suscepible, the pandemic affected our minds > differently, but no-one was left unscathered. > But I also think there is some fundamental difference in Open Source > today than 10 years ago... some signals were present before the > pandemic, but it got worse. > > > The result of all this thinking is that I still want to contribute to > > this project, for which I have worked more than twenty years. But I > > will > > scale down my involvement. I would like to give up on chores that I > > never enjoyed and work on fun stuff like problem analysis and bug > > fixing. > > And I hope this can continue. > > > There are three main jobs that I would like to pass on: > > - Maintainership of GNUstep gui and back. Here it would be great if > > somebody could at least take over the review of Greg's pull requests. > > Somehow we are not able to sort out our communication and this results > > in a rather frustrating experience for me. > > I must admit it is not easy at all, but you are just good. > > > If you are interested to take over one of these jobs, please contact > > me > > directly. I will stay out of further mailing list discussion but will > > still be around to help developers and users with their issues. > > I hope to continue to have the privilege to work with you on GNUstep > and fix one bug after the other and improve it one piece at a time. > Maybe you can at least partially reconsider your decision - I don't > see anybody in this project with your knowledge to be able to take > over, but I want to discuss with this you privately. > > The fact that I can type this answer on a full stack of FOSS, from the > operating system up to GNUstep and GNUMail is partially als your and > mine work and I want to continue pursue this improvement with you so > that this freedom remains available for others who to not wish to get > caught in Google Mail or the future Window Cloud.... or whatever else. > > > Riccardo > > -- > GNUMail running on GNUstep on OpenBSD/i386 Toshiba Tecra > > > > > -- Gregory Casamento GNUstep Lead Developer / OLC, Principal Consultant http://www.gnustep.org - http://heronsperch.blogspot.com https://www.patreon.com/bePatron?u=352392 - Become a Patron https://gf.me/u/x8m3sx - My GNUstep GoFundMe https://teespring.com/stores/gnustep - Store
