I second Daniel’s notion here. Either have a little hide / expand button or 
have a link to the full chart. 

Very helpful info and would accelerate set up immmesley.

On Fri, Aug 20, 2021, at 6:31 PM, Daniel Boyd wrote:
> Riccardo,
> 
> I appreciate not wanting to have an overly complex chart on the main web
> site. And I think having a comprehensive chart on the Wiki is a great idea.
> 
> However, I do not think that's a good reason to exclude this (or something
> similar) from the main web site. I think a simplified version of the chart
> would still be really helpful. Identify the most common configurations (from
> the standpoint of how frequently do visitors to the web site come looking
> for configuration X?)
> 
> I think one of the most common use cases for the site (and, again, I'm
> assuming; analytics could confirm), is new (new to GNUstep) developers with
> a particular idea in mind -- writing a new app, porting a macOS or iOS app,
> etc etc. And they want to be able to quickly discern if GNUstep is a viable
> option. "Can I use GNUstep to port my Mac app to Windows/Linux?" "I keep
> hearing great things about Cocoa. Can I use GNUstep to get into Cocoa
> programming in Linux?" 
> 
> I think people want to know:
> 1) what operating system(s) can I run this on?
> 2) Can I use ObjC 2.0 features (this will be a deal breaker for many, if not
> most developers coming from the Apple ecosystem)
> 3) How can I quickly get an environment set up so I can start coding? (hence
> the link to the installation instructions)
> 
> I think one of the major goals of the web site should be to surface this
> information to new visitors quickly and simply. And I don't think the
> current web site does this well enough. There very well may be a better
> approach--the matrix was just the first thing that popped in my mind.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Riccardo Mottola <[email protected]> 
> Sent: Friday, August 20, 2021 4:19 PM
> To: Daniel Boyd <[email protected]>; 'Discuss-gnustep Discuss'
> <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: Web site matrix
> 
> Hi Daniel,
> 
> 
> Daniel Boyd wrote:
> >
> > I think the web site could benefit from a matrix along these lines:
> >
> > This is just a example. Obviously, you'd want to add lines for the 
> > BSDs and MacOS etc. And there may be better columns and a better 
> > layout. This was just my original thought.
> >
> 
> I just re-read your suggestion understanding it differently.
> This "Matrix" could get very long.. we support a lot of combinations. I am
> personally a tester and debugger of the less usual stuff. Especially with
> gcc we can get currently very far.
> 
> I think this should live in the wiki instead, so it can be edited easily and
> cross-linked with relevant tutorials to build or configure it. I would leave
> out the "installation method" and referring to the table for building.
> Adding a note if e.g. packages are available and recommended for "Debian"
> (Linux is not debian).
> I would add also architectures where relevant (e.g. ppc32, arm, etc... 
> since it makes a difference with certain combinations)
> 
> I can help with a lot of data here in about a fortnight, when I plan to
> re-run full builds.
> 
> Riccardo
> 
> 
> 

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