Hey Lars, On Sat, Sep 2, 2023 at 10:39 AM [email protected] < [email protected]> wrote:
> Hey Greg, > > > I’ve seen your tweet: > > https://twitter.com/bheron/status/1696627365751988414 > > well done! > > Thanks. > But then again I had a discussion in very well frequented german IT-forum > today, where I got this answer: > > > https://www.heise.de/forum/heise-online/Kommentare/Linux-Mint-Das-bessere-Windows-c-t-3003/Re-Bitte-mal-eine-GNUstep-basierte-Distribution-testen/posting-43060613/show/ > > > It translates to: > > What's wrong with them using a modern theme? > I'm not a fan of changing things all the time, but we have more than 16 > colors and using a gradient here and there in the UI can significantly > enhance controls without overly colorful design. > > When I see the screenshots of the project, the whole thing again looks > like someone is building something that has to work at 640x480 with 16 > colors, although I can imagine that the principles behind it would > still/again make sense today. Something in the direction of Windows 7 or > Breeze optics would really not hurt. > I think one of the reasons we need a "reference" distro or, at the very least, our own packages is that it would be much easier to theme things in a way that would appeal to more users. > Translated with www.DeepL.com/Translator (free version) > > > I answered that GNUstep already has themes, but when searching for > https://gnustep.github.io/experience/Theming.html I found out that this > page is nowhere linked from the front page, so I knew it exists but I had > to google it. All in all our web presence (while looking somewhat sleek) is > in a kinda sorry state: It doesn’t get those messages around: > > - We are not Window Maker and Window Maker alone is not GNUstep > - We are a cross platform implementation (Linux, BSDs, Windows) of Cocoa, > formerly OpenStep > - We are up to date (here Greg knows best which features of which macOS > version are supported) > - We are themable (adding some screenshots of modern themes on the > frontpage would be great) > > That page does a poor job at showcasing any theme which is much more than just color changes over our defaults, we need to do better on this page. "Classic Windows" and similar themes are NOT exciting or appealing. > additionally: > > - GNUstep can be used as a desktop environment (a link to a somewhat > maintained one would be good here, for instance > https://github.com/trunkmaster/nextspace ). > > Even better it would be if we had our own reference implementation of a > desktop environment, but I see this is wishful thinking, as we lack the > manpower to do so (no offense to women by the way ;-)). > > Personpower? (joking) but yes... I would love to help with this, but the issue is there just aren't enough hours in the day. > > But as of now we come over as we would be a „software museum“ not as > something contemporary. Sorry, I had to say this, but when I bring GNUstep > on the table in discussions I regularly get laughed at: „Are you serious? > This stuff is from the last century!“ > > I've made the point over and over again that we aren't a museum project. You will often find that popular consensus frequently beats out reason in a lot of people's minds. They regurgitate what they hear. This is why we need to give a very strong first impression. > We need to stop this! > > Indeed. > Rant over. > > > Kind regards, > > Lars > > > > Am 29.08.2023 um 18:35 schrieb [email protected]: > > Maybe you should write a blog post about this or at least tweet it. The > IT-world needs to know and it doesn’t. It still thinks GNUstep is just > Window Maker and old fashioned looking. Had this discussion just two days > ago. Again. > > Kind regards, > > Lars > > Am 29.08.2023 um 16:21 schrieb Gregory Casamento <[email protected] > >: > > As you guys know, Algoriddim makes use of GNUstep on Windows. It has > just been released in beta: > > https://www.algoriddim.com/store/djay-windows-beta > > It looks pretty awesome!! GC > -- > Gregory Casamento > GNUstep Lead Developer / OLC, Principal Consultant > http://www.gnustep.org - http://heronsperch.blogspot.com > https://www.patreon.com/bePatron?u=352392 - Become a Patron > https://www.openhub.net/languages/objective_c - OpenHub standings > > > > -- Gregory Casamento GNUstep Lead Developer / OLC, Principal Consultant http://www.gnustep.org - http://heronsperch.blogspot.com https://www.patreon.com/bePatron?u=352392 - Become a Patron https://www.openhub.net/languages/objective_c - OpenHub standings
