Hi Riccardo,

I successfully built GNUstep Core with GNU Runtime on Debian 12.12. This is a 
major issue solved in my project. Again, thank You for the wise advice. I can 
now work again on a better look for the theme, namely as you suggested.

About GWorkspace, I just noted that configure failed to detect sqlite although 
sqlite3 is installed when building the submodule GWMetadata. Is it a known 
issue?

Patrick

On 2025-09-17 17:19:59 +0200 Riccardo Mottola <riccardo.mott...@libero.it> 
wrote:

> Hi Patrick!
> 
> Patrick Cardona wrote:
>> Hi Riccardo,
>> Hi Richard,
> 
> :-) it makes me smile
> 
>> - Building GNUstep (last Runtime 2.1 with clang-14 and linker gold) works 
>> fine the first time on a fresh updated lite system (Debian Bookworm 12.12) 
>> - I am using a set of scripts inspired by Patryck Laurent: namely his tip 
>> about Libdispatch (removing some headers related to Blocks before building 
>> libobjc2). I needed also to install cmake 4 because the debian default 
>> release is outdated. So after the first pass all seems ok (no errors in the 
>> logs).
> 
>> - The side effect of the above method is that the GNUstep tools-make are 
>> built and installed several times: if you try to install again the whole 
>> GNUstep on the same system, weird things begin to happen and the build 
>> process will fail (too many errors in the logs. One reason seems that the 
>> PATH to cmake 4 ($HOME/.local/bin) which was right the first time was 
>> overriden in the following attempts. I am also guessing about the last 
>> GNUstep.sh sourced which may not be accurate to rebuild...
>> - I added a test to warn the user about this risk. But what if another 
>> script fails - and really I need often to iterate. So if we cannot 
>> reinstall GNUstep, maybe a removing method should be necessary. I remove 
>> the building folders, use a dirty 'sudo rm -fR /usr/GNUstep'... I clean 
>> also ~/GNUstep, ~/.bashrc, log out and log in again.
> 
> I wonder of this issue. I have few installation using libobjc2 because it is 
> troublesome for me and doesn't compile out-of-the-box or fails to work 
> properly on several OS-Architectures combination I use.
> However in GCC environments I have no issue "reinstalling" tools-make several 
> times! I often do only incremental builds (make && make install in make, 
> base, gui, back) and it works.
> I source GNUstep.sh "before" installing make.
> 
> 
>> About the matter to build only with gcc, I am very very curious: I was 
>> never able to make the new ABI (objc2, runtime >= 2) with only gcc. Do you 
>> mean you don't install libdispatch/objc2 and you only use the old ABI 
>> (runtime 1.9)? Is the last release of GWorkspace building on this runtime?
> 
> Yes, latest GWorkspace and all software I maintain works with GCC runtime. It 
> uses threads and processes directly.
> libdispatch is needed directly if GCD is used. I don't know though if in case 
> of GCD presence "normal" threads change. Richard or other more base experts 
> can tell you perhaps.
> 
>> I have a multicore proc (`nproc` returns 4 on the pi 400) so I wonder if we 
>> loose the multithreading hability without Libdispatch and if it is a matter 
>> of performance.
>> Could you please tell us your building environment settings with only gcc 
>> and the config args you use for each GNUstep lib?
> 
> I don't precisely know of performance when using one or the other, but using 
> threads and processes GWorkspace will exploit multi-core or multi-CPU setups.
> 
> With gcc the setup should be very simple, the only changes are in make and 
> base to make sure the gnu-gnu-gnu runtime is selected and GCC is used. Should 
> be picked up by default
> 
> My setup on Linux is:
> 
> make:  /configure --with-layout=gnustep --prefix=/
> base, gui, back:  "configure"
> 
> gcc and runtime get picked up automatically for me.
> 
> On OpenBSD where clang is the default compiler to "coerence" it to use GCC I 
> do:
> 
> For make: configure --with-layout=gnustep --with-library-combo=gnu-gnu-gnu 
> CC=egcc CXX=eg++
> The rest base, gui, back should be just plain configure && make
> 
> Riccardo
> 

-- 
Patrick Cardona - Pi400 - GNU/Linux (Debian 12 aarch64: RPI OS Lite) 
Xorg (1:1.7.1-1.2) - libcairo2 (1.16.0-7+rpt1 arm64)
Window Maker (0.96.0) - GWorkspace (1.1.0 - 02 2025) - Theme: PiSiN - MUA: 
GNUMail (1.4.0)


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