It's possible that NSI allows you to register hosts when you register the
domain name - however, this is likely done in the background with the
domain being created with already registered nameservers (say,
NS1.NETSOL.COM), then creating the nameservers and updating the
nameservers to the ones created.  All at once.  Sneaky buggers...

You can create registered nameservers with OpenSRS, but not until after
the domain is created.  It CAN be done quickly enough that the domain will
have the correct nameservers setup before it's entered into the zone
files.  Just go to http://manage.opensrs.net (or your own customized
manage.cgi), select "Name Servers", and at the very bottom there's a
selection for "...create or modify a nameserver which is based...".  It's
all self explanatory from there :)

Charles Daminato
TUCOWS Product Manager (ccTLDs)
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Mon, 11 Dec 2000, JB Segal wrote:

> Hm. Until recently, I was able to register new domains and new nameservers in
> the same (to me - perhaps different under the covers) transaction - then again,
> until recently, NSI would just take my fscking credit card and not make me
> create an account with them...so who knows what changed.
> 
> So, what do I have to do to register hosts? Do I have to deal with NSI
> (Please, God, No!) or can I do this via srs/tucows?
> 
> Thanks,
> JB
> 
> Quoth Charles Daminato ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> > By design the Root Registry denies registration of any domain that has
> > unregistered nameservers - registered does not mean that it requires an
> > HST handle.  Only that the registrar with which the domain resides on has
> > registered each nameserver host with NSI Registry.  You can check for this
> > by doing:
> > 
> > $ whois -h whois.crsnic.net <nameserver>
> > 
> > An example (for dns1.tucows.com) is:
> > 
> >     Server Name: DNS1.TUCOWS.COM
> >     IP Address: 216.40.37.11
> >     Registrar: TUCOWS.COM, INC.
> >     Whois Server: whois.opensrs.net
> >     Referral URL: www.opensrs.org
> > 
> > Even after registration, the nameservers you want to change TO have to be
> > registered nameserver hosts.
> > 
> > This is a limitation imposed by NSI Registry; all Registrars must abide by
> > these rules.
> > 
> > Charles Daminato
> > TUCOWS Product Manager (ccTLDs)
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > 
> > On Mon, 11 Dec 2000, JB Segal wrote:
> > 
> > > I was told at LISA this past week* that any domain I want to register via
> > > OpenSRS must have nameservers that already have existing NIC handles - that
> > > I can change the domains to new NS' AFTER the registration has completed.
> > > 
> > > Is this true??
> > > 
> > > As many of the domains I end up registering have their OWN private NS
> > > records, making me execute this extra step (and wait for _2_ root zone updates)
> > > would add major hassle to things.
> > > 
> > > Please tell me it's not true? Please?
> > > 
> > > JB
> > > 
> > > *By a friend who's already an srs reseller.
> > > -- 
> > > JB Segal          [EMAIL PROTECTED]   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Systems Engineer  617-250-3649    800-606-8292    617-283-2675 (Cell)
> > > Akamai Technologies, 500 Technology Square, Cambridge MA 02139
> > >           "Pay no attention to the folks behind the curtain..."
> > > 
> 
> -- 
> JB Segal              [EMAIL PROTECTED]   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Systems Engineer      617-250-3649    800-606-8292    617-283-2675 (Cell)
> Akamai Technologies, 500 Technology Square, Cambridge MA 02139
>           "Pay no attention to the folks behind the curtain..."
> 

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