In a perfect world I would agree with you. No advertising
of any kind, as it pollutes the medium it uses.
But marketing is part of the world that we live in and I
have too much else to do to spend time fighting windmills.
Although I do allow myself an occasional windmill battle for
amusement but I pick the battles I fight. And give them up
when they are no longer amusing.
Fighting spam is a battle you can not win, as it is too easy
for those new to the internet to use and too profitable for
those veterans of the internet that use it to give it up.
And too easy to get new ISPs and hosting accounts for those
who wish to spam if you are successful in having an account
closed on them. I don't celebrate hollow victories such as
this.
An argument over spam and what is spam is probably not a
topic for this list.
The question was asked if it was a valid method of
advertising, I replied.
Snail mail advertising is a valid but costly method of
advertising this product, given the slim profit margins.
The same is true of telephone solicitation.
While hated, email is also a valid advertising medium,
inexpensive to use and very profitable for those who know
how to use it.
Whether we like it or not, it will continue to be used for
these reasons until it made illegal. I would like to see
all forms of advertising made illegal unless we requested
it, but this will never happen.
So I find it easier to just delete than fume about it, hung
up the telephone on the solicitations and toss the junk mail
in the trash can.
This will be my last comment on this issue, as I consider it
a windmill that can not be defeated. :)
-----Original Message-----
From: Swerve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2001 12:18 AM
To: ezgoing; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: SPAM (?)
Ezgoing wrote
> Either way it is a legitimate marketing ploy. I don't
> consider it as spam because it is a service that the
domain
> owner may use.
As a domain owner, i can find the services/prices i want.
If i can't, i ask
people i know/trust and/or use search engines.
Consider the fact that there are likely (guesstimate) 10,000
resellers of
domains worldwide. Do i/you want 10,000 emails in my/your
email box for
each domain that comes up for renewal?
Just wait til 5mb video files start dropping into our email
boxes.
Imo, i want the right to opt out of certain or all
phone/mail/email lists.
It's a waste of my time, of trees, of ink, of gasoline, and
of water.
(21st century ~ ^~^~^~~~~
In fact, perhaps opting in should be the only method used.
Default would be no solicitation, unless i/you/we request
it.
Swerve
> From: "ezgoing" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 19:22:44 -0500
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: RE: SPAM (?)
>
> I for one don't have a problem with it.
>
> However, I don't have a problem with it being sent by
email
> either.
>
> Either way it is a legitimate marketing ploy. I don't
> consider it as spam because it is a service that the
domain
> owner may use.
>
> Get rich quick schemes, porn sites, these are spam.
>
> Don't want to start another battle here with those zealots
> who consider any email that they did not originate as
spam,
> but I don't see this as any different than the telephone
> solicitation nor the mail solicitation.
>
> Telephone solicitation I hung up if not interested, mail
> gets thrown in the trash, email gets deleted. Very little
> loss of energy on my part.
>
> And no, we do not solicit by email nor snail mail. We
have
> excellent search engine positioning, good client referrals
> and advertise in the local market, all of which are more
> effective than email or snail mail solicitation.
>
> We do not consider domain name registration to be a profit
> center, but just another service that we provide for our
> clients and those we hope will become our clients in the
> future. So we are not really concerned about those who
> solicit by email or snail mail.
>
> But we do find those emails we received trying to get us
to
> switch web hosts amusing. Seem like they would at least
> cull their lists before sending hosting offers to an
hosting
> company.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jim
> Carey
> Sent: Friday, June 29, 2001 5:24 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: SPAM (?)
>
>
> Hi,
>
> I have, twice now, received snail mail (with prepaid reply
> envelope) letters
> pointing out that a domain I own is set to expire in the
> near future and
> that I could save "substantial" amounts by moving to their
> service. This
> other provider is also an OpenSRS reseller.
>
> Now I actually consider this to be a legitamate marketing
> ploy and applaud
> the "get up and go" of the other reseller.
>
> If this were sent as an email it would be considered to be
> spam - what do
> ppl on the list think of this approach (ie snail mail
> solicitation)
>
> Jim Carey
> www.OZbcoz.com discount domain registration
> www.iluvoz.com affordable hosting services
>
>
>
>
>
