We are also having problems with Registrars that don't include email
addresses on their WHOIS database... and as far as I know there is no
work-around. So essentially, there is an increasing number of Registrars
that it's not possible to transfer to OpenSRS from. I can see this becoming
a real problem in the very near future.

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-----Original Message-----
From: Donny Simonton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 01 August 2001 21:27
To: 'Charles Daminato'; 'Robert L Mathews'
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: DomainDiscover Transfers


You think this is bad, try to transfer a domain from domainzoo.com.
They don't even show a email address on their whois listings.  This is
the whois lookup for domainzoo.com.  Or you can find it here:
http://www.domainzoo.com/whois/default.htm

Registrant:  Steve Sullivan  (domainzoo)  
   PO Box 36763  
   Tucson, AZ   85740  
  (520)531-1794  
   US  
Company:  DomainZoo.com  
   
Domain:  DOMAINZOO.COM  
   
Administrative Handle:  domainzoo  
 
Billing Handle:  domainzoo  
Technical Handle:  domainzoo  
ISP Handle:  gain  
Record Created:  6/29/1999  
Record Expires  6/29/2002  
   
Name Servers:  NS1.DOMAINZOO.COM
208.8.52.113
NS2.DOMAINZOO.COM
208.8.52.117
 
Network Solutions objRRP Data:  registrar:domzoo
updated by:domzoo
status:ACTIVE
registrar transfer date:2001-04-19 23:51:35.0
updated date:2001-04-27 12:23:07.0
created date:1999-06-29 01:50:44.0
registration expiration date:2002-06-29 01:50:44.0
created by:NSI
nameserver:DNS.GCI-NET.COM
nameserver:NS1.DOMAINZOO.COM
nameserver:NS2.DOMAINZOO.COM



Donny

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:owner-discuss-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Charles Daminato
> Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2001 2:25 PM
> To: Robert L Mathews
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: DomainDiscover Transfers
> 
> I'm not sure if this is all bad - they probably have it stated in
their
> contracts that all domains go on lock.  They don't even DO anything
> (NAC/ACK), the registry rules prevent locked domains from transfering
> (doesn't even GET to the registrar).
> 
> Since they also give the registrant full control over unlocking their
> domains, well.... the most you can say is devious
> 
> Charles Daminato
> OpenSRS Product Manager
> Tucows Inc. - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Robert L Mathews
> > Sent: August 1, 2001 2:39 PM
> > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: DomainDiscover Transfers
> >
> >
> > We've recently been trying to transfer two domains from the
registrar
> > TierraNet, aka DomainDiscover.
> >
> > The transfers were denied by DomainDiscover, although the registrant
> said
> > he did not receive any sort of communication from them.
> >
> > Upon investigation, it turns out that DomainDiscover has a default
lock
> > on all domains. To enable a transfer, the registrant first must log
into
> > the DomainDiscover control panel, click the "Switch away from
> > DomainDiscover" link, and type an e-mail message detailing the name
of
> > the new registrar and "the reason for switching away from
> DomainDiscover"
> > (!).
> >
> > After some period of time, they will remove the lock and you can
then
> > transfer it.
> >
> > As far as I'm concerned, this form of default NACK is even worse
than
> > what NSI is doing, because upon receiving a transfer request,
> > DomainDiscover apparently doesn't even send a notice to the customer
> > saying that they're going to be rejecting the transfer or indicating
> what
> > the customer needs to do to make it happen.
> >
> > --
> > Robert L Mathews, Tiger Technologies
> >

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