At 4/25/02 2:02 PM, JB Segal wrote:

>So, it's unclear to me whether the situations discribed in 
>http://resellers.tucows.com/opensrs/orphan_a_records
>are merely heads-up 'This might be a problem for you' or if it's a
>warning 'If any of these 4 situations exist, your NS Glue Records are
>toast at the roots'.
>
>Can anyone expand on that?

Did you get sent a personal list of orphaned records? If you have any 
orphaned ones, you probably will receive a list (we did, anyway); 
otherwise you can ignore it.

If you receive the list, first check to see if the names are being used 
for anything. For example, if one of the records on the list was 
"abc.example.com", you'd first check to see if you actually use 
"abc.example.com" for anything at all. If you don't, you can just delete 
the nameserver record for it. That eliminates cases 1 and 2.

If you are using the name for anything, you have to see if the IP address 
for that name in your own nameserver is different from the IP address of 
the "orphaned" name in the root zones. You'd use dig for this, with 
something like:

$ dig abc.example.com @ns1.example.com

... (or whatever your authoritative nameserver for example.com is), then:

$ dig abc.example.com @a.gtld-servers.net

Then see if the IP addresses are the same. If they are, again, you can 
delete the nameserver record for it with no ill effects. This is the 
"you're okay" situation mentioned on the page as "an orphan A record 
merely occludes the same information in a com, net or org subzone".

If the IP addresses are different, you have a problem (and the name 
probably hasn't worked very reliably anyway). This is case 3; you would 
then fix your local DNS so that it has the correct address, and then 
delete the nameserver record.

If you're in case 4, it's doubtful that your names are working at all. 
You might as well delete the record anyway since your DNS is so broken it 
won't work properly.

(The page itself has slightly different instructions for determining 
which case you're in; the steps above were my method. Use the 
instructions on the page if you don't know what you're doing, so as not 
to blame me.)

You'll note that all the "fixes" eventually end up with you deleting the 
orphaned host record, which is the point of the exercise. Any records on 
the list WILL be deleted within a month -- the question is merely whether 
you do it in an orderly fashion after investigating each one, or whether 
Verisign just deletes them all for you without you knowing what they 
might have been used for. You're better off checking and doing it 
yourself.

--
Robert L Mathews, Tiger Technologies

"The trouble with doing something right the first time is that nobody
appreciates how difficult it was."

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