While this is a viable scenario, I know the registry deeply (and proactively) frowns on too many deletes within the grace period. It's meant to be more of a "oops" fixing tool, and registrars are notified when they have suspicious delete activity over a given period.
Charles Daminato OpenSRS Product Manager Tucows Inc. - [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jim McAtee > Sent: June 7, 2002 10:45 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Expired domain weirdness > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jim McAtee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 9:02 AM > Subject: Re: Expired domain weirdness > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "George Kirikos" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 8:26 AM > > Subject: Re: Expired domain weirdness > > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > > On Tuesday, I checked the WHOIS and found the name registered to a > > > > Popular > > > > Enterprises of Knoxville, TN. Entering the expired domain name in a > > > > browser > > > > took me to the website of netster.com. I figured, oh well, the > > > > customer is > > > > SOL and will have to find a new domain name to use. > > > > > > > > On Wednesday, I did another WHOIS on the expired domain and it then > > > > came up as > > > > unregistered. ??? So I registered the name with OpenSRS and it now > > > > shows up > > > > in WHOIS, although the root servers haven't picked it up yet. > > > > > > > > Is there some kind of an explanation for this? > > > > > > Do you know which registrar got the domain after it expired the first > > > time? Some of them allow registrants to delete registrations in the > > > first 5 days (this "deletion" capability is supposed to be used only > > > for mistakes, and not abused, e.g. to test the quality of a domain in > > > the first 5 days). > > > > I'm not positive - I should have printed out the WHOIS output, > but didn't > > expect the domain to become available again. Since netster.com is also > > registered to Popular Enterprises and the registrar for netster.com is > > itsyourdomain.com, I think it's a safe bet that was the registrar used. > > > The more I think about this, the more it pisses me off. So we have domain > speculators that are able, with the help of certain registrars, to snatch > expired domain names, and drop them at will during the first five > days. So > they play against several scenarios: > > The original domain owner snoozes and loses the domain. If in > that five day > period, the original owner contacts them, I suppose they'd sell it for a > price. If not, they drop it. > > If anyone else were interested in the name, but unable to snatch it as it > became available, they might be contacted about a purchase. Once > again, if > nobody else seems to want it, they can just drop it. > > Even if nobody appears to want the domain that badly, the domain still may > generate some traffic, so they'd keep it and direct it to god knows where. > Porn, gambling sites, whatever. Nice. > > Jim >
