Tim,

ICANN places the onus of proof on the gaining registrar for "proper
authorization" of a transfer.  They don't delve too deep on what "proper
authorization" is, however.  Our system uses the administrative email
contact from whois and send transfer authorization there.  We have a
relationship with StarGate who will provide us with the email in their DB
upon request (so we can still get the email and send the request).  Note
that StarGate actually has agreement with ICANN not to show some whois
details (due to the Data Privacy Act in the UK).

Other registrars (we do not) may employ other methods, such as faxes.
Those "renewal notices" that some registrars are currently employing, if
signed and mailed in, are also "sufficient" for ICANN's purposes.

Charles Daminato
TUCOWS Product Manager
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Sat, 15 Jun 2002, myOstrich Internet wrote:

> The following was part of a note posted on WHT today.
> -------------
> I did transfer to XXXREGISTRAR just today, I didn't receive their
> 'authorization for transfer' email so emailed XXXREGISTRAR's support,
> they got back to me within 3 minutes of the email and told me that
> stargate's whois wasn't working so their system didn't know who the
> administrator of my domain was... so the guy is sending me a manual
> authorization email monday.
> -------------
> Now I am interested in the mechanics of this because domain transfers
> are getting harder and harder to do these days. It's not uncommon for us
> to have two or three in queue for weeks trying to get all the
> communications issues resolved.
>
> This note appears to say that the gaining registrar can go around the
> losing registrar if they get some sort of manual authorization from the
> customer.
>
> Is this true? Can an ICANN accredited registrar (XXXREGISTRAR is both a
> Tucows reseller and ICANN accredited) go around the losing registrar's
> systems like this?
>
> -t
> --
> myOstrich Internet
> http://www.myostrich.net
>
>

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