I'm also an ECHO Agent, and I'll tell you this, I have never heard of any
actual problems with things like that.
It's kind of like a disclaimer. It just protects them. They more than likely
will not be out seeking to harm you,
by searching for those types of things.

Plus, I'll state this, that you by law, have the right to make any changes
to a contract that YOU see fit.
If they then accept that contract, they are bound by it. If you do make
changes they of course have
the right to deny your application. But like I said, if they do approve it,
with your changes, then they
are bound by the changes you made. Just like your bound by the terms of the
contract, so are they.

In my mind, the very best part of ECHO is the FREE Chargeback's you get EACH
MONTH, and
the waiver of the "statement fee's, aka Support Fee's", if you don't have
any processing in any
given month. Those two alone will beat just about EVERY other merchant
account provider
out there, as far as expense goes. When doing business online, EVERY company
is faced
with Chargeback's at one time or another. The first 5 being free, is
OUTSTANDING, and
then only five bucks each thereafter, is also AWESOME.

Anyways, that is just my 2 cents.
Richard.

PS. The Caps are not meant to be "yelling", I personally use them to stress
the most important
parts of my comments. Kind of like Sense, Stress and Modulation. :o) Sorry
if it offends you ;o)


----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark E. Mallett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Brian Curtis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 11:09 PM
Subject: Re: query..


> On Fri, Feb 07, 2003 at 12:32:51PM -0500, Brian Curtis wrote:
> > Keep in mind the below info is for "ECHO Agents" and are at cost...
> > Since this is not the BizOps list, and I'm not looking to obtain new
> > customers with this info, I don't see the harm in posting this info.
> >
> > We use ECHO to provide our clients w/ merchant accounts.  We've had
> > very good results, and we like how we're treated by the people in the
> > company itself.
>
> I looked into echo last year some time-- and ran right into their
> contract, which is very anti-ISP (not to mention contradictory).
> You'd end up violating clauses with pretty much anything you did.
> When I tried to discuss this with them, they agreed with me about
> the violations- however, they claimed, I could just ignore those
> things.  Yet they still wanted me to sign them without modification.
>
> Curious to know how you dealt with that.  Their batch processing
> setup did look rather nice.
>
> mm
>
>

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