Hi Nick,
if you're interested to go after expired domains, I'd like to give you few
pointers:

- generic whois is not reliable indicator if domain is available or not, as
it's not real-time
- there is a very competitive industry built around 'speculative' names, and
it's not easy to crack into it
- and most importantly, any sort of high-volume, repetitive activity should
not be executed against our regular production environment. Both Tucows and
registry may construe it as abuse, and we may temporarily limit your access
to our system. Rather, you should connect to batch.opensrs.net - all the
ports and functionality are equivalent to regular prod. environment.
However, batch environment uses special pool of connections to the registry,
that is more appropriate for this type of activities.

Regards,
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Zeljko Dimic
Technical Product Manager
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Tucows Inc.
96 Mowat Avenue
Toronto, ON, M6K 3M1
Canada
tel: 416.535.0123 x 1256
fax: 416.531.5584
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-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Nick Wilsdon
Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2004 6:40 AM
To: 'Gordon Hudson'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Snapback


Hi Gordon,

Yes, this is my exact concern about any system of this type, the load on
the retry operation and how that would affect the OpenSRS system. It
does not seem a difficult function to put in so I was wondering why the
developers had not.

However if the auto-retry mechanism could be triggered by a whois
search, to start retrying when the domain was 'free' and to stop when it
was again 'taken' (either by ourselves or someone else) then the time
could be greatly controlled.

I would like to investigate this further - can anyone else see any
reasons for not doing so or know more about the load/limits of the
connections? Also, if we developed a system of this kind would it be of
interest to make it a GPL distribution to the community?

Best,

Nick

Managing Director
e3internet
http://www.e3internet.com


----- Original Message -----
From: "Nick Wilsdon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2004 8:33 AM
Subject: RE: Snapback


> Hi,
>
> >From examining this further - it really comes down to auto-retrying
the
> pending domain order doesn't it? We actually had this one domain in
> question in the pending order queue but the domain was still
technically
> not available so the order had not gone through. I was sitting there
> manually retrying the order as the time came near to the release but
> someone with a system in place got it before me.
>
> So is there a way to enable the domain request to be reattempted
> automatically when queued?

I don't believe so but you could write a script that did it.
However, I seem to remember people getting into trouble for doing this
because it tied up too many connections to Verisign.
That may have changed.

Regards

Gordon Hudson
Hostroute.com Ltd
www.hostroute.net




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