Hello, --- "Ross Wm. Rader" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Ask Bhavin why the > > nameservers of AEM.com haven't been changed yet, or those of > F3.com, > > even though they are in the same account as the thief who stole > > Easy-Dater.com, with the same FAKE WHOIS. The answer will > demonstrate > > to you why the current system still sucks. > > Have repatriation proceedings been initiated in these cases? If not, > why > not? This is the quickest way to get the names back.
I don't know the prior owners, and have limited time (uncompensated) to do "pro bono" work. I try to do the best I can. Furthermore, I don't even have "standing". Even if I know it's stolen, there's no mechanism for me to challenge the registration, except to point it out, and hope registrars will do something....obviously at DirectI.com, a thief can keep a name with bad WHOIS active, even when other stolen domains are found in their account.... > > I disagree with you that stolen domains end up in the right hands. > > There are a lot of stolen domain names that STAY in the thieves > hands, > > or are resold to unwitting/uncaring buyers, because the prior > owners > > were completely unreachable. Those names should have instead > expired > > and been open to registration by anyone. If there's no complainant, > > except the "public", how is the name recovered?? > > Again - if people aren't availing themselves of the repatriation > rights > in the policy, then the names will stay with the thieves. I'm glad we agree here, that the names are staying with the thieves, if left unchallenged. Thus, there are a bunch of names which would have dropped, that are currently in the hands of thieves, or have been resold by the thieves. Those names have BAD PROVENANCE. They have never become clean. Since there's no official WHOIS history, how does a buyer recognize those bad names (that me and others are aware of)? They can never go back to having good provenance, unless a legitimate prior owner steps forward, to reclaim them. It's in the public interest for those names to be challenged, so that they can be deleted, and made open to having GOOD PROVENANCE again (there are some 2-letter .coms in the list, just to give you a sense of the values at stake -- can't publish them, as it would be bad if I wrongly identified a name as stolen when it wasn't, but in 99% of cases I've been right in trusting my ability to detect a stolen domain). Dormant names with bad WHOIS that suddenly switch to a new registrar, are tested for traffic on a parking page, then immediately posted for resale at various venues are some of the signs that folks should be looking out for... Sincerely, George Kirikos http://www.kirikos.com/