On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 11:51 AM, Richard Pieri <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Apr 27, 2011, at 9:50 AM, Edward Ned Harvey wrote:
>>
>> Difficult, but certainly not impossible if verification is disabled.
>
> Unless there is something that I am missing, an attack of this sort is simple 
> in an environment with automated updates.  Take a Debian system using 
> cron-apt to install security updates.  I can identify what is currently 
> installed with 'dpkg -l'.  From this and a mirror copy I can identify what 
> will be installed during the next update.  Determining the update schedule is 
> as simple as looking at /etc/crontab.  By default, anacron on Debian runs the 
> cron.daily scripts at 6:25 AM.  So, with less than 2 minutes work I know what 
> and when.  Now I can pick an executable that I know will be (re)started as 
> root, and there are plenty to choose from.  Let's say apachectl.
>
> The only difficulty is working up an exploit with a matching hash before 6:25 
> AM tomorrow.

If you are monitoring bug fix channels and can replicate the build environment,
you MIGHT get a larger window.  Don't forget to use Amazon's EC2 to do
the heavy lifting as well.

Bill Bogstad

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