Wow you are correct.  I can watch live streams on youtube without any plugins 
with Safari and Firefox.  I did not know that.

Thanks,

Eric 


> On Jul 27, 2015, at 9:41 PM, Shirley Márquez Dúlcey <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Receiving video is pretty much the same whether or not the source is
> live. HTML5 can handle it.
> 
> I thought the original question was about ORIGINATING a live stream.
> That is what is difficult to do in HTML5. And since originating a
> stream requires a plugin, some sites may also still be set up to
> require a plugin for playback; UStream is a good example, though their
> beta browser viewer may support HTML5 streaming.
> 
> YouTube live events do not require a plugin to watch; they use HTML5
> streaming if available. And there is an option to use a Google Hangout
> as the stream source, and I believe that also does not require a
> plugin if you stream from Chrome. Otherwise you need Flash to source a
> live stream.
> 
> On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 9:27 PM, Eric Chadbourne
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Fascinating.  I'll read up on the camera API in HTML5.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Eric Chadbourne
>> Nonprofit-CRM.org
>> 
>>> On Jul 27, 2015, at 7:23 PM, Shirley Márquez Dúlcey <[email protected]> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Although there has been a camera API in HTML5 since at least 2012,
>>> browser support has lagged; even now, developers can't count on it
>>> being available, and what support does exist is inconsistent. Flash is
>>> the most widely installed plugin so that is what developers used. It
>>> can also be done with Java or Silverlight but fewer users have those.
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 7:07 PM, Eric Chadbourne
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> I've heard some smart folks say flash is needed for live streaming and 
>>>> nothing else is nearly as good.  I've heard them say there is no good open 
>>>> source option.  If this is true, why?  Surely there's no magic sauce in 
>>>> there that couldn't be replicated, or even done better.  Is it more of a 
>>>> matter of plugin saturation?  Just curious.
>>>> 
>>>> Eric Chadbourne
>>>> - The one who uses no flash or java plugins, ever.
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