Thanks Roxy,

Yes that it what I got too and used to try and unsubscribe but still
the emails keep rolling in.

I used the approriate thing for the other "hidden" list I was herded
onto abruptely as well.

One of the ones that you could not find by yourself, it was after all
only the Users' Help list - who needed to find that any way?

Paul

On 19 October 2010 15:45, Roxy Robinson <[email protected]> wrote:
> Paul,
> Here is what I was sent when I subscribed.
> Welcome! You have been subscribed to the [email protected]
> mailinglist. To unsubscribe send a message to:
> [email protected]
> Roxy
>
>
> Dear Roxy,
>
> I've given up, and have delisted from all LiBO stuff for now, and have
> taken LiBO off and I am  putting Oracle's OOO on again for now until
> if/there is a change of heart on how LiBO is run.
>
> I had some real issues with the Writer/Web html format and
> functionality, and I can't believe how my postings were handled on
> help+user list.
>
> I was even asked why I was using LiBO for making web forms and not
> some other FOSS, yet the person coiuld not name to me another WYSIWYG
> html designer for Xp.  Al I was doing was what LiBO says it will do,
> and I wanted to help them debug the Beta where it was not saving
> things properly.
>
> I've been in unsalaried community work for nearly 30 years now and
> know that even though you do things for free, you still have to have a
> service attitude in your heart. I think that seems to be misisng
> somewhere with some of the LiBO carry on.
>
> This message won't even be on the list as I de-listed.
>
> Paul
>
> On 19 October 2010 14:45, Roxy Robinson <[email protected]> wrote:
>> I was saying I have been using OOo 9 years - and actually when I start
>> counting its probably a year or 2 longer - only because I have used it
>> exclusively as my office program. I'm not trying to establish a reputation
>> for anything except for being a bit dissatisfied with the way things are
>> going right now. Are these the same, or different folks, that are supposed
>> to be bringing forth an OOo 3.3? If not, what happened to it?
>> As I said previously, I already knew of the Oracle takeover of Sun through
>> one of the several computer related newsletters I subscribe to. When I heard
>> that it bothered me a little in regard to whether OOo would continue to be
>> available or not. And then out of the blue I get an email announcing
>> LibreOffice, and that the first beta is available for download. Yeah, it
>> says it shouldn't be considered to be "ready for production". My first
>> thought is "what the heck happened to the next release of OOo that they had
>> been talking about". Is this a "replacement" product with another name? Go
>> to the website for the download and there is really no information there
>> explaining what the heck is going on. So I go ahead and download LO while I
>> am there. Only later to find out - no this isn't an upgrade to OOo; its
>> another product. But I guess, similar to OOo????? And, I will guarantee you
>> there are a ton of other folks out here with the same questions I
>> had/have!!! I know all the folks tha
>>  t I've introduced to OOo over the years have them. And TDF may be doing
>> an outstanding job - but I don't see it!!!! They sent me the link to the
>> download, but I'm certainly not a beta tester. So I'm still pretty much in
>> the dark on what to expect. And, yes, I do have a fairly strong opinion
>> about that, but that does not mean it is not an humble one!
>> Roxy Robinson
>>
>>
>> On 10/18/2010 03:00 PM, Roxy Robinson wrote:
>>
>>  > Well, you can think what you want to think and I, as just a common
>>  > every day, 9 year user of OOo, will think what I want to think. Your
>>  > thoughts went way beyond what I said needed to be done, anyway. To
>>  > release any software, beta or otherwise, [without] the
>>  > support/instruction function in place, is stupid! IMHO!!!
>>
>> (Roxy, please quote properly, so people won't get confused about who
>> said what.  Thanks.)
>>
>> Well, you have a pretty strong opinion for it being humble.   I don't
>> think anyone here is stupid, least of all the organizers and developers
>> of TDF.  That's just rude.  They are doing an awesome job.   I guess
>> we'll agree to disagree.
>>
>> Also, it seems you are attempting to establish reputation by touting 9
>> years usage, or perhaps I am misunderstanding your reason for mentioning
>> it?  Does this matter?  I don't think it does, but if you want to have
>> that contest please realize that I have been using StarOffice/OOo for a
>> few years longer than you -- I forget when StarDivision starting making
>> it available free for personal use, 1998, I think.
>>
>> It's beta software, so there should be no expectation that a common user
>> would be installing it -- there is a warning on the site that says it's
>> not for production use.  The point I think is to send a message that
>> LibO is going to make the rubber hit the road, right out of the gate.
>> Considering all of the vaporware out there, I think that LibO is off to
>> an awesome start.
>>
>> And, it worked -- it got the community going.  The beta was downloaded
>> 80 000 times in the first week, and the developer list is going
>> gang-busters on patches.  I consider this a wild success so far.
>>
>>
>>      ----Jon
>>
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