When will be the Libreoffice 3.3 Beta 3?
在 2010-11-14，上午3:00， [email protected] 写道： > Topics (messages 2846 through 2859): > > [tdf-discuss] Updates overwriting User settings > 2846 - Robert Derman <[email protected]> > > [tdf-discuss] Re: Updates overwriting User settings > 2847 - Larry Gusaas <[email protected]> > > [tdf-discuss] Re: Updates overwriting User settings > 2848 - Robert Boehm <[email protected]> > > [tdf-discuss] FreeDesktop Bugzilla > 2849 - Michael Meeks <[email protected]> > > [tdf-discuss] FreeDesktop Bugzilla > 2850 - BRM <[email protected]> > > OOoCon 2010 Talk (was: Re: [tdf-discuss] FreeDesktop Bugzilla) > 2851 - Christoph Noack <[email protected]> > > [tdf-discuss] FreeDesktop Bugzilla > 2852 - Michel Gagnon <[email protected]> > > OOoCon 2010 Talk (was: Re: [tdf-discuss] FreeDesktop Bugzilla) > 2853 - Christian Lohmaier <[email protected]> > > [tdf-discuss] FreeDesktop Bugzilla > 2854 - Duane <[email protected]> > > [tdf-discuss] FreeDesktop Bugzilla > 2855 - Johannes Bausch <[email protected]> > > [tdf-discuss] FreeDesktop Bugzilla > 2856 - Rainer Bielefeld <[email protected]> > > [tdf-discuss] FreeDesktop Bugzilla > 2857 - jonathon <[email protected]> > > [tdf-discuss] How To Contribute > 2858 - animesh meher <[email protected]> > > [tdf-discuss] How To Contribute > 2859 - David Nelson <[email protected]> > > > > > -- > Unsubscribe instructions: Email to [email protected] > Posting guidelines: http://netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html > Archive: http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ > *** All posts to this list are publicly archived *** > > > > > OOo has never overwrittin the user settings on my Mac in the three and a > half years I've been > using a Mac. > > > > -- > _____________________________________________________________________________ > > > Larry I. Gusaas > > *Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan Canada > Website: http://larry-gusaas.com > "An artist is never ahead of his time but most people are far behind theirs." > - Edgard Varese * > > > > -- > Unsubscribe instructions: Email to [email protected] > Posting guidelines: http://netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html > Archive: http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ > *** All posts to this list are publicly archived *** > > > > > -- > > As the trials of life continue to take their toll, remember that there > is always a future in Computer Maintenance. > -- National Lampoon, "Deteriorata" > > > -- > Unsubscribe instructions: Email to [email protected] > Posting guidelines: http://netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html > Archive: http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ > *** All posts to this list are publicly archived *** > > > > > On Fri, 2010-11-12 at 15:36 +0100, Friedrich Strohmaier wrote: >>> LibreOffice already has the selectable help/about version text so it >>> can be cut/pasted. >> >> Yeeey!! > > :-) > >>> "Version key (paste from help->about):" >> >> That's what I allways dreamed from in OOo!! > > Nice - so - I guess we can do still better. It would be -really- nice > if we could cut/paste a block of text (perhaps a non-human-readable > chunk) that we could parse in javascript to auto-fill-out many of the > fields accurately: > > platform / exact version / enabled extensions / > java version / etc. etc. > > I'll add this as an easy hack. > > As/when we have a defined URL, we could add a 'file a bug' link that > could even auto-populate that. Lots of fun is possible. First we need > some draft of the form / flow / wizard[in a single page] to fill in to > file the bug I think. > >> Good news. LibO will make the race!! :o)) > > If we can get people excited and contributing, make QA a fun job > instead of a duplicate triaging nightmare etc. we'll do well :-) thanks > for your support. > > ATB, > > Michael. > > -- > [email protected] <><, Pseudo Engineer, itinerant idiot > > > -- > Unsubscribe instructions: Email to [email protected] > Posting guidelines: http://netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html > Archive: http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ > *** All posts to this list are publicly archived *** > > > > >> From: Michael Meeks <[email protected]> >> On Fri, 2010-11-12 at 15:36 +0100, Friedrich Strohmaier wrote: >>>> LibreOffice already has the selectable help/about version text so it >>>> can be cut/pasted. >>> Yeeey!! >> :-) > > Hardly. Now you've got two things that can go wrong for a bug report. > Sure it's less the user has to remember, but now you're relying the user > being able to reliably copy/paste for the bug report too - information that > may not be easily accessible - e.g. if they can't run the software due to it > crashing, perhaps without generating the crash report manager. > >>>> "Version key (paste from help->about):" >>> That's what I allways dreamed from in OOo!! >> >> Nice - so - I guess we can do still better. It would be -really- nice >> if we could cut/paste a block of text (perhaps a non-human-readable >> chunk) that we could parse in javascript to auto-fill-out many of the >> fields accurately: >> >> platform / exact version / enabled extensions / >> java version / etc. etc. >> >> I'll add this as an easy hack. >> >> As/when we have a defined URL, we could add a 'file a bug' link that >> could even auto-populate that. Lots of fun is possible. First we need >> some draft of the form / flow / wizard[in a single page] to fill in to >> file the bug I think. > > Why bother? If you can do that, then you can just as easily have it load the > web > page > in a browser for the user to simply review and sign off on, or even just have > another > dialog come up that directly submits the information to the system without > having to > go through a web browser - which would be even better to do so as to cover > users > that don't necessarily have Internet access since you could then create a zip > file and > give them instructions on what to do when they _do_ have Internet access (or > provide > a means to send it at a later time). > > Seriously, Thunderbird has a means to capture a crash report and save it for > later > submittal. They recognize that not all users are able to access the Internet > or > their > mail system at all times. LibO needs to account for that too. > > And no, copy/paste is not a step in the right direction here. > > Ben > > > -- > Unsubscribe instructions: Email to [email protected] > Posting guidelines: http://netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html > Archive: http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ > *** All posts to this list are publicly archived *** > > > > > Am Freitag, den 12.11.2010, 07:43 -0500 schrieb Charles Marcus: >> On 2010-11-12 6:01 AM, Michael Meeks wrote: >>> Perhaps we want a simple hash in addition to that - that combines >>> vendor, version, platform, and so on - and that we demand - so we >> can >>> detect wrong values that people enter for version / etc. - thus not >>> tempting them to file an old bug vs. a newer version just to get >>> attention ;-) would be easy to do. >>> "Version key (paste from help->about):" >> >> I don't understand why this should have to be manually entered by the >> user. > > Good question, short answer: There is no reason. At least no real > technical reason ... > > At the OOoCon 2010 (and before), we already talked how to improve the > issue gathering and tracking from the user's and the supporter's > point-of-view. The current idea is a small first step to some agreement > between the different contributors ... because - from what I understand > - it is more the differences how the projects handle these issues, than > a technical problem. > > The discussion at the OOoCon 2010 made clear to me, that - if people go > for such a (let's call it) automated issue gathering system, to say > "yes, software does contain bugs". And it requires some agreement across > different projects / Linux distributions how to harmonize such a system, > so that every contributor can have some benefit. > > And here, the experience of the projects and the current workflows seem > to differ to such an extend, that the "given" manual system provides > reasonable flexibility. Another experience people talked about was, that > fixing the known bugs is already a lot of effort. But, I still consider > this "costly" for the users and the people doing the support on the > mailing lists. > > However, we collected some ideas within the presentation / workshop ... > so if you like dynamic camera movements and emotional debates, then > please have a look at the conference video [1]. > > As strange as it sounds, I'm happy for each of the tiny improvements ... > and after a long time, we start to address these improvements. Okay, the > remaining comments might better be located on another mailing list :-) > > Cheers, > Christoph > > [1] Video (approx. 700 MB!) > http://users2.ooodev.org/~ooocon2010/01_september/FT_409/18.15_charles_schulz_mechtilde_stehmann.flv > > > -- > Unsubscribe instructions: Email to [email protected] > Posting guidelines: http://netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html > Archive: http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ > *** All posts to this list are publicly archived *** > > > > > I don't know about others, but I, for one, NEVER send those automated > crash reports. It feels a bit like big brother watching over my shoulder. > > -- > Michel Gagnon > Montréal (Québec, Canada) -- http://mgagnon.net > > -- > Unsubscribe instructions: Email to [email protected] > Posting guidelines: http://netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html > Archive: http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ > *** All posts to this list are publicly archived *** > > > > > On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 11:50 PM, Christoph Noack > <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> [1] Video (approx. 700 MB!) >> http://users2.ooodev.org/~ooocon2010/01_september/FT_409/18.15_charles_schulz_mechtilde_stehmann.flv > > 120MB > http://users2.ooodev.org/~cloph/videos/10-09-01_FT_409_18.15_charles_schulz_mechtilde_stehmann.mkv > > ciao > Christian > > -- > Unsubscribe instructions: Email to [email protected] > Posting guidelines: http://netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html > Archive: http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ > *** All posts to this list are publicly archived *** > > > > > How do you expect problems to be resolved if they are not reported? > > > -- > Unsubscribe instructions: Email to [email protected] > Posting guidelines: http://netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html > Archive: http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ > *** All posts to this list are publicly archived *** > > > > > better: > * ask the user once at the beginning if he wants to report crashes and > list the information THERE > * NEVER include things like the current program's memory page dump or > something alike > * then DO NOT ask again but just send it > > alternative: > * pop-up which sais that a crash report can be sent if the user wishes, but: > * it only has a input field where the user can say for himself what > happened and when > * checkbox saying something like: "include relevant data", where > "data" really leads to ALL the data being sent > > The current problem is that hardly anyone trusts these crash reports - > that's what I experience when talking to friends about that issue. So > we first have to make the user think that something is being done. > I've repeatedly used the "Firefox made me sad"-thing but I've never > used the crash report before. > > Joey. > >>> I don't know about others, but I, for one, NEVER send those automated >>> crash reports. It feels a bit like big brother watching over my shoulder. >>> >> You are kidding right? > > -- > Unsubscribe instructions: Email to [email protected] > Posting guidelines: http://netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html > Archive: http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ > *** All posts to this list are publicly archived *** > > > > >> May be we open some Task-Issues at FreeDesktop Bugzilla > > Started here: > <https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=31592> > > Rainer > > -- > Unsubscribe instructions: Email to [email protected] > Posting guidelines: http://netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html > Archive: http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ > *** All posts to this list are publicly archived *** > > > > > On 11/12/2010 01:12 PM, Charles Marcus wrote: > >> Bug#'s? Thunderbird has never had a problem 'retrieving' our mail in our >> office, and we've been using it (40-60 users over the years) since about > version 0.8, so whatever your problem is/was, obviously it is/was > something fairly obscure. > > The issue quite literally is: "Too many email accounts with too much > mail to be retrieved". > > jonathon > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ > > iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJM3s0OAAoJEOpnmQXT8Ln/Mi4IAMBVm+STQDAdLI/d1pb6YYfv > C1Y+68kSQADfxxcYjVWOq116CWfSzBYuyi1gM4Vbk82XXmw6epxea09DxqzxCKYR > dUW+Ss8QEC4yymkq3fJebs0Xye+Gxhkph35RadxNfOc/hq5nJHJPIbKCQEBBlMWb > 8kHStmujSeuXxRY2tUyaSqsc0VQxZnOyLT0MZXyJb8f6Ivo3a2W9NJwBJyQt7TA4 > KrWSrq2SMuV5nH+ekkP/LQwEiT0mTcYTWoiwwikeiftUf3oKJJO62Cy2OR/V1Q6n > AuhyVsgkCSMbIniMxJLPDZXWc94sko8GA4+dBT3YtTnYrJRJHbxblRt+9GqBwEw= > =yd3i > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > -- > Unsubscribe instructions: Email to [email protected] > Posting guidelines: http://netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html > Archive: http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ > *** All posts to this list are publicly archived *** > > > > > Hi! Friends=2C > > New Comers like me would like to contribute to Libre Office . > I have some experience in c++ and could contribute if guided properly. > If someone can send me a guide.=20 > > Ill also contact different blogs like omgubuntu.co.uk=2C muktware.com=2C ww= > w.webupd8.org.=20 > > Thanks and Cheers=2C > Animesh > = > > -- > Unsubscribe instructions: Email to [email protected] > Posting guidelines: http://netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html > Archive: http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ > *** All posts to this list are publicly archived *** > > > > > I'm not sure there is a "guide" as such, but you could go chat to the > devs on IRC, or write to the devs' mailing list. You can also browse > the "how to contribute" section of the main site, and have a look at > the wiki... I've pasted lots of useful links below [1] (including > links to the various resources I mentioned). > > HTH. Welcome to the community. :-) > > David Nelson > > [1] Useful links > ============ > > LibreOffice marketing mailing list: [email protected] > > The Document Foundation general discussions mailing list: > [email protected] > > LibreOffice developers mailing list: > http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice > > LibreOffice user support mailing list: [email protected] > > Our Nabble gateway for easy mailing list browsing: > http://www.documentfoundation.org/nabble/ > > The Document Foundation contacts page: > http://www.documentfoundation.org/contact/ > > LibreOffice dedicated IRC channel: #libreoffice at irc.freenode.net > > TDF dedicated IRC channel: #documentfoundation at irc.freenode.net > > Follow TDF via @docufoundation on Twitter: http://twitter.com/docufoundation > > Follow TDF via @docufoundation on identi.ca: http://identi.ca/docufoundation > > Visit the TDF website: http://www.documentfoundation.org > > Visit the TDF/LibO wiki: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org > > -- > Unsubscribe instructions: Email to [email protected] > Posting guidelines: http://netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html > Archive: http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ > *** All posts to this list are publicly archived *** > > -- Unsubscribe instructions: Email to [email protected] Posting guidelines: http://netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html Archive: http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived ***
