On Mar 9, 2011, at 08:50 , James Wilde wrote:

> 
> On Mar 9, 2011, at 04:05 , NoOp wrote:
> 
>> Of late there are multiple posts on the users list regarding mail list
>> subscribe and unsubscribe issues.
>> 
>> 
> <snip>
> 
>> Florian points out an issue with mailman:
>> http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.documentfoundation.discuss/226
>> <quote>
>> We use mlmmj for good reasons.
>> Mailman has a lot of options and the luxury of a web interface, but it's
>> a total mess for moderators. You have one password per list for all
>> moderators, and moderation via e-mail is a pain.
>> </quote>

Just re-read the msg from Florian quoted above, and the bit NoOp filtered out 
is:

<quote>
That being said, the only viable alternative for the moment was mlmmj 
(Majordomo is legacy, Smartlist is procmail-based, ezmlm is qmail-only; 
maybe Sympa is an alternative). So, at the moment, I can't do much about 
it. Mailman would be great if we didn't need to moderate.

Florian
</quote>

This is significant, since, as we are agreed, the only valid reason for 
moderators, given their limited powers, is, in fact, being able to pass 
unsubscribed messages.

One thing I omitted in my original reply was that a significant portion (don't 
ask for a %age) of the moderated posts are from regular posters who for some 
reason post from an address they have not registered.

//James
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