On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 3:36 PM, M Henri Day <mhenri...@gmail.com> wrote: > 2011/4/22 Simos Xenitellis <simos.li...@googlemail.com> > >> On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 2:03 PM, M Henri Day <mhenri...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > 2011/4/22 Simos Xenitellis <simos.li...@googlemail.com> >> > >> >> FFII and the AFUL (two free-software associations) have started a >> >> crowd-sourcing effort >> >> to provide information to the European Commission Competition agency >> about >> >> the lack of choice for the consumers when it comes to computers and >> >> compulsory pre-installed Windows. >> >> >> >> Original press-releases: >> >> >> >> >> http://press.ffii.org/Press%20releases/Share%20your%20operating%20system%20bundling%20tales%20with%20the%20EU >> >> >> >> >> http://aful.org/communiques/share-your-operating-system-bundling-tales-with-the-eu >> >> >> >> Here is my take to simplify the message, >> >> http://simos.info/blog/archives/1198 >> >> >> >> How is this relevant to LibreOffice? The source of the problem is the >> >> bundling of Microsoft >> >> Windows to the new computers. The manufacturers get discounts for the >> >> licenses if they support >> >> only Windows, if they promote only Windows on their websites and ads, >> and >> >> so on. >> >> If this relationship weakens, we may see a chance for LibreOffice on >> >> new computers, >> >> or Linux computers that obviously have LibreOffice. >> >> >> >> tl;dr: Visit >> http://ec.europa.eu/competition/forms/consumer_form_en.html >> >> to report cases where you could not buy a computer without Windows, >> >> while you had not need for Windows. >> >> >> >> Simos >> >> >> > >> > «If this relationship weakens, we may see a chance for LibreOffice on new >> > computers, or Linux computers that obviously have LibreOffice.» >> > >> > 'tis a consummation. Devoutly to be wished. But somehow I find it >> difficult >> > to envisage either Joaquín Almunia eller Alexander Italianer going that >> > far.... >> > >> >> I do not understand the comment. >> >> What we do is report to the EU the cases we know, where we were forced >> to buy a computer >> with pre-installed Windows, although we did not need Windows (either >> we use Linux >> or we already had a Windows license). >> >> It's up to the Competition agency of the European Commission to take >> appropriate action. >> That's their job. >> Our job, and the initiative from the FFII and AFUL, is to report cases >> to the EC Competition agency. >> >> Simos >> > > Just pointing out, Simos, that I don't share what seems to be your > confidence in the ability - or for that matter, the intention - of the > Competition Agency to do what we both agree is its job.... >
Well, you have to substantiate this claim, otherwise it appears that you are trying (unintentionally) to derail this discussion. We know that government agencies might be slow to react, but the way you are phrasing your view is that the Competition agency will simply not examine and discard any report. Simos -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
