> So here is my suggestion: I propose the everyone here head over to the
> Apache Incubator and join the proposal as an initial member.  

Well, at least for me the problem is:

I *work* on LibreOffice. I f I wasn't paid to do it, I doubt I would touch it. 
Or maybe I would, hard to know. As far as I have understood, "membership" in 
ASF poslings/projects (or in the organisation itself) is for *individuals*. I 
am strongly opposed to the idea that my employer would force me to join some 
organisation. That is against basic human rights. (That holds for TDF, too.)

And the other way, even if I wanted to contribute to the eventual OOo podling 
at ASF, and then later presumably OOo project (or whatever the term is for what 
a podling becomes when it graduates), I obviously can't contribute stuff that I 
have done on my employer's time to which my employer holds copyright. Or can I? 
I am not a lawyer nor do I have any wish to get involved in legal battles.

And finally, whether it would make any sense from the technical point of view 
for LibreOffice contributors to even try to participate in OOo at ASF depends 
very much on what actually ends up there, and in what direction it is taken by 
the presumed main driving force, IBM. For all we know, it might be that the 
code that is eventually dumped in ASF's SVN (!) is a subset that doesn't even 
build, and then IBM starts adding its own hitherto proprietary stuff including 
build mechanisms that makes it into a completely different beast than what we 
are used to. I suspect lots of Java is involved, and that is not necessarily 
that popular around here. As if understanding and using the "old" OOo build 
mechanisms which have been somewhat adapted at LO wasn't hard enough.

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