----- Original Message ----

> From: Simos Xenitellis <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Thu, June 16, 2011 6:31:25 PM
> Subject: OFF TOPIC about GPL enforcement (Was: Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: 
>[Libreoffice] Proposal to join Apache OpenOffice)
> 
> On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 1:03 AM, Greg Stein <[email protected]> wrote:
> > On Thu,  Jun 16, 2011 at 17:54, Simos Xenitellis
> > <[email protected]>  wrote:
> >>...
> >>> The key thing being "that person". That  person is most likely not You,
> >>> the developer who is contributing  to the software. Thus, You won't get
> >>> those changes unless "that  person" decides to pass them back to you.
> >>>
> >>> So you  don't necessarily have a "right" to the code. You are relying
> >>> on  the goodwill of "that person" to help you out. Of course, they
> >>>  might not even know who you are. They might not care. They might  not
> >>> ever ask for the source  code.
> >>>
> >>
> >> It's a common misconception. If a  TV uses Linux (most LCD/LED TV use 
>Linux),
> >> you do not need to show  evidence you bought one in order to ask for
> >> the Linux source  code.
> >>
> >> See the GPLv2 (per Linux kernel) license  text,
> >>  http://www.gnu.org/licenses/old-licenses/gpl-2.0.txt
> >>
> >>  “Accompany it with a written offer, valid for at least three years,
> >>  to give **any third party**, for a charge no more than your
> >> cost of  physically performing source distribution,”
> >
> > That written offer  goes to the recipient (your statement comes from
> > 3(b), which is  dependent upon the primary part of (3), which talks
> > about distributions  to a recipient). The recipient does not need to
> > transfer or pass that  offer to third parties.
> >
> 
> Here is the full sentence, omitting some  details for clarity:
> 
> a. You [i.e. manufacturer, etc] may copy and  distribute the Program,
> b. in object code or executable form
> c. provided  that you also
> d. accompany it with a written offer
> e. to give **any**  third party
> f. a complete machine-readable copy of the corresponding source  code
> 
> > Again, you're relying on the goodwill of the recipient to get  changes 
>returned.
> >
> 
> Anyone can get a copy of the source code for  copyleft software.
> 

Please read:

http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#RedistributedBinariesGetSource

Directly from the FSF, authors of the GPL. You must have a copy of the written 
offer in order to be entitled to receipt of the source.

> Tell me which LCD/LED TV  you have (brand,  model), and I'll get for
> you the source code (of the copyleft)  software.

Only if you also have a copy of the written offer are they required to do so. 
See above.

Ben


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