Hi Michael, *,

Am 19.09.2012 11:32 schrieb Michael Meeks:
> On Tue, 2012-09-18 at 22:10 +0200, Friedrich Strohmaier wrote:

>> I'm not against having paid officers in general, but they should do meta
>> tasks, i.e. rather looking for people doing necessary work - for example
>> by poking sponsors to provide manpower than doing the work themselves.

>       I'm not sure this model generally works so well :-) Sponsors are not
> lacking tasks of their own and tend to value the ability to direct their
> own resources: that's why they pay them. Having said that I think you
> capture something really important:

>       If we contract anyone it is critical to ensure that they are someone
> who works well with, and is a respected part of the community. Currently
> we have plenty of people full-time on the code who (I hope) work in that
> capacity: they do some of the less sexy work to allow volunteers to do
> the bits they love best, they help mentor people and empower them and so
> on - presumably that pattern can work elsewhere too ?

Maybe I was not clear: I talk of what *TDF* pays for. I'm happy
community work having done by paid people, paid by external resources as
You describe.

>       For example - we're contracting Tollef currently to do some bugzilla
> administration around freedesktop: he's the existing sysadmin in that
> space, is widely respected and is doing a great job: my hope is that
> that is not too controversial a pattern :-)

Who is "we"? SuSE, TDF?

>       Aside from that, we have a ton of un-met administrative needs that go
> far beyond system administration: you point out one: fund-raising, there
> is a lot more detail around the board that requires significant
> investments of time to get right - and these tend to fall through the
> cracks.

Couldn't agree more! The boards intention though is to contract an
*infrastructure* officer. Btw.: wasn't me pointing out the fund-raising
issue ;o)).

>       Anyhow - it's great to hear about the good work you're doing in the
> admin team, that sounds really encouraging, and is much appreciated. 

Thanks for the flowers! Generously waving the honey spoon is a nice
gesture ;o))

regards

Friedrich
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Friedrich Strohmaier
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