Hi Florian, independent free software projects work like The Document Foundation. Of course, there is always a chance to develop a business around LibreOffice, but the core of the foundation will always be based on volunteer work and this, in my opinion, is not a problem but an advantage, because it protects our independence. Best, Italo
-- Italo Vignoli Mobile +39.348.5653829 Email italo.vign...@gmail.com On Tuesday 15 January 2013 at 10:57, Florian Monfort wrote: > Hi Michael, > > I think I might have made it a little too dramatic... > > I'm not saying you don't meet my expectations, I'm saying you're doing > well, but I just don't feel comfortable with the way we actually work. > > Also that doesn't mean I'm totally leaving everything that is LibreOffice: > I'll keep on saying how awesome it is, I'm just stopping from following > mailing lists etc... > > As to starting a business, have to admit that this is something that goes > in my mind from time to time, just haven't figured out whether I really > want to do something like that or not yet. > > Thanks > > > > > On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 7:02 PM, Michael Meeks <michael.me...@suse.com>wrote: > > > Hi Florian, > > > > So - first, this belongs on the discuss list - please follow up > > there > > and not on the developers list where it is out of scope. > > > > On Sun, 2013-01-13 at 16:54 +0100, Florian Monfort wrote: > > > And that has consequences: we're too slow -acting.. > > > > > > As a foundation - IMHO we're pretty good at decision making :-) at > > least - compared to larger companies; still we're worse than small > > consultancy outfits. > > > > > And you can talk about "contributors", but the thing is, here it is > > > totally different: those guys are paid by Red Hat, Canonical or SuSe. > > > > > > > > > One third of our patches (and often the coolest ones that are not > > commercially driven but really improve stuff), come from un-affiliated > > volunteers. > > > > > The truth is the community is mainly made of people who are paid full > > > time for it: so YES, we should promote an actual "product", not a > > > community that is practically non existent. > > > > > > > > > I don't know where you get this 'truth' from :-) > > > > > But it looks like speaking of a "commercial offer" would sound crazy. > > > > What do you want to sell ? if it is such a good idea - why can't > > you > > start a VC funded firm (or whatever) to produce it, and be part of the > > LibreOffice community along-side other companies that make a business > > out of supporting and developing the project & their derived products ? > > Is there any real need to bet TDF's success on some business venture, > > for-pay-product etc. ? Ultimately we're a charitable non-profit > > foundation. Don't let me discourage you doing that though - if you have > > a good idea: start a business, and if it helps LibreOffice I'd be happy > > to help you help us. > > > > > Well I'm sorry to say I disagree with all this, and I'm thinking this > > > is too bad: LibreOffice could actually grow faster and with a larger > > > community, if at least people were capable of recognizing that > > > "business" is the actual model to adopt > > > > > > > > > Seriously; we have applied a -lot- of brain cycles collectively to > > the > > problem of how to make the project self-sustaining (OpenOffice was not), > > and create opportunity for businesses around it. If you're aware of some > > magic bullet that we are not - please discuss it on discuss@. If you can > > raise seed funding for your idea - I'd be most happy to help identify > > people to hire, etc. > > > > Anyhow - again, please follow-up only on discuss. Thanks for your > > contribution ! I'm sorry we didn't manage to met your high > > expectations :-) > > > > All the best, > > > > Michael. > > > > -- > > michael.me...@suse.com <><, Pseudo Engineer, itinerant idiot > > > > > > -- > *Monfort Florian* > BM2 Student at France Business School > Marketing Apprentice at Red Hat > florian.monf...@gmail.com > Mobile : +33 6 58 97 15 61 > > -- > Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org > Problems? > http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ > All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted > > -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
