Hi all,

Pardon my intrusion into your fight. For the record I have never seen a Mac. 
Also, English (US) is my native language.

That said, it makes no sense to me for execution of any program one time before 
adding a language pack to it should make it any safer after adding the language 
pack than waiting to execute it for the first time until after an appropriate 
language pack has been added.

What am I missing in this discussion? I know that I would flee in horror from 
any program that natively had a Greek UI if that program had to be executed 
once that way before I could install an available English language pack. Is 
this not analogous to the topic under discussion?

As for Larry's protestation that the download did not go wrong, I don't know 
how anybody can be absolutely certain of that. Error checking is very 
sophisticated now but there is also a very slim chance that offsetting 
corruptions could occur. I would at least try a second download before 
eliminating "bad download" as a possible cause of trouble. <paranoia> Even one 
chance in 10^100 of an error creeping in is still not zero. It's excellent for 
most purposes -- just not _absolutely_ perfect. </paranoia> ;-)

-- 
Jim 

-----Original Message-----
From: Larry Gusaas <larry.gus...@gmail.com>
To: discuss@documentfoundation.org
Sent: Fri, 18 Dec 2015 12:19
Subject: [tdf-discuss] Re: Installing on Mac OS X

On 2015-12-18, 7:56 AM Uwe Altmann wrote:
> Hi Larry
>
> Am 18.12.15 um 10:34 schrieb Larry Gusaas:
>> No, the download did not go wrong. I also installed the en-GB language
>> pack. Doing so makes the signing certificate invalid and it can't be
>> opened unless I switch security settings to "Anywhere". You obviously
>> didn't read my post clearly.
> Maybe your post wasn't clearly enough on this? Also my English is
> extremely bad so perhaps I missed the point?
>
> So for this I downloaded en-GB langpack and installed it on my 5.0.4
> (with German langpack already installed). Started LO as usual - no
> problem. No invalid or invalidated certificate so far. en-GB is
> available now. Everything is as it should.

To clarify:
When you download LibreOffice and a language pack and install LibreOffice and 
then install the 
language pack before opening LibreOffice you will get the error message.

If you have already opened LibreOffice before installing the language pack, 
like you did, the 
language pack will install and you will not get an error message.

This is a serious issue for non-english speaking  people since they are likely 
to install the 
language pack before they open LibreOffice.

Installing a language pack before opening LibreOffice modifies the program and 
makes the 
certificate invalid since it does not cover the modification.

> Probably the error message is right and you perhaps got the NSA-Version
> of the download ( ;-) - just joking). Try download again from
>
> https://www.libreoffice.org/download/libreoffice-fresh/?type=mac-x86_64&version=&lang=en-GB
Perhaps I should just stick with Apache OpenOffice instead of using a clone.


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Larry I. Gusaas
Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan Canada

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