Love the idea of making things that students can use!

There seem to be two parts of the note-sharing idea:
* Taking the notes
* Sharing the notes

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Two existing note-sharing services to take a look at:

http://www.notetopia.com/
* (for some reason @usc.edu won't get me in...)

http://www.noteutopia.com/
* (this caused a bunch of controversy because they buy/sell the notes)

I'm certain that there are others ...

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The note TAKING step seems just as compelling, though.

On one extreme, I see many many students taking notes in the Microsoft
Office notetaking program (OneNote)?

On the other, my personal note-taking workflow involves vim + mediawiki.

What's a good half-way point between these approaches that encourages sharing?

Some of my classmates swear by a non-free Mac program called Scrivener:
http://www.literatureandlatte.com/scrivener.php

And I know some others who have a similar relationship to Zim:
http://zim-wiki.org/

Maybe a specially modified version of Piratepad for students?

A project like this could start a bigger conversation about the best
tools/practices for students who care about their computing freedom.

Exciting stuff!
Kevin







>   6. Ideas for a Paper/Notes Sharing Webapp (Rich Jones)
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> Subject: [FC-discuss] Ideas for a Paper/Notes Sharing Webapp
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> (I'm submitting this as an idea to FC-discuss to see what everybody thinks
> about it, if we decide to move forward, we can discuss the implementation
> details on FC-Hackers).
>
> With the conference in New York rapidly approaching, I think it would be
> really cool if we made something that we could show off to everybody by the
> end of the conference. If we get the ball rolling now, I'm sure we can have
> something cool by the end if we have a hackathon during the conf.
>
> So while I was in school I remember noticing that damn near everybody in
> most of my classes had a laptop to take notes on. I think it'd be really
> sweet and super handy if we set up a website where we could all easily share
> our notes and the other course materials we make. There are some companies
> doing something similar, but none that are free and use creative commons
> licensing. I think this a cool opportunity to experiment with the free
> culture philosophy in education, and we could actually end up making a
> difference in the way people learn. I found that in school I learned just as
> much from my peers as I did from my professors, and this could be a good
> tool for facilitating and enhancing that aspect of peer to peer learning.
>
> There are some pros and cons to this idea:
> Pros:
> - Utility! People would be able to come to class more prepared and be able
> to learn from the notes of others as well as their own.
> - Display scholarship! Our handsome friend Parker has suggested that perhaps
> it could be used to highlight good scholarship, to display papers we are
> proud of. It would be cool to share them with each other and comment on
> their content.
> - Novelty! I'd love to be able to see the coursework and notes that people
> in other majors take, simply for my own curiosity.
> - Promote SFC! I can't think of anything that would bring in more members
> than a useful, public service.
> - $$$ for SFC: If it became popular enough, perhaps we could slap up some
> ads and bring in a little cash to the organization.
>
> Potential Cons:
> - Plagiarism/Cheating: This is going to be a difficult issue. Some people
> may abuse the service to simply copy and paste other people's work. While I
> think that outright plagarism is a really bad bad thing, I don't think
> there's anything wrong with remixing somebody else's ideas and learning
> about what makes a good paper and what makes a bad paper. In fact, this is
> really the whole heart of our organization, right?
> - Copyright: Some teachers may object to having their courses 'notesified'
> and uploaded public consumption. IANAL, but I believe I remember the supreme
> court (or perhaps is was the supreme court of Florida (??)) ruling that a
> students' notes are their own property. This could be a good way to test
> that ruling. (Legally, I think we'd be okay thanks to the DMCA safe harbor).
> - Damaging our relationship with professors: Parker has been having success
> promoting OpenCourseware at Dartmouth and affords much of the success to
> friendliness, handsomeness and cooperation with professors. This idea may be
> too subversive and could damage rapport for members who want to establish
> these ties.
>
> What do you guys think? Would you use this service? Would you be willing to
> upload your own notes to it?
>
> I've learned Django recently and I'm pretty sure we could whip up a
> prototype in a couple of days.
> (Also!: Please join fc-hackers (
> http://freeculture.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fc-hackers ) if you are
> interested in developing this or any other FC ideas.)
>
> Thanks!
> Rich
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