We have https://github.com/freeculture Let me know your usernames so I can add you.
Patrick: regarding Stallman, that's exactly why I work on http://unhosted.org - whereas many free software people hate on Javascript, it's actually the solution for free software on the web because it all runs on your own computer. Hosted "free software" on the other hand still gives more power to servers - we have to unhost web apps so the power & logic is at the client, and servers are only used as stupid, encrypted commodity storage. Google can not be compared to Github because on Github we don't have any personal data - everything is open (except the Issues) and accessible through an open protocol, git. In addition to not covering any costs, we also don't need to do the work that is maintaining a git server. On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 6:13 PM, Patrick Anderson <[email protected]> wrote: > Jan-Christoph Borchardt wrote: > >> I don’t control the server. > > Many people (such as Richard Stallman) assume hardware cannot be > shared in a freedom-preserving way. > > http://GNU.org/philosophy/network-services-arent-free-or-nonfree.html > > This is a long-standing problem that may seem to be without a solution. > > But once we address this issue, we can easily outperform GitHub, > Google, Amazon, Yahoo, Verizon, ConAgra, Nestle, Nike, Pepsi ... and > in fact, *ALL* corporate organization, because we only be required to > pay the actual Costs of operation. > > Until then, we will continue to grovel and beg those corporations (and > the governments they control) to "do the right thing" - even though > they *cannot* be on our side because the goals of their investors > conflict with the goals of the Users. > > There is a massive psychological barrier to reconsidering who should > own the Means of Production. > > Imagine the Users gain control (instead of the Workers as we have > always been told). > > We, the Users, will still need to pay all the Costs of production > (including any wages), but, since we can accept the Product itself as > the Return for those Investments (the ROI), the Product will not be > sold, and so Price == Costs and Profit is UNDEFINED! > > We must use this knowledge to begin hosting git repos and email and > social networks and general storage, etc. for our own, mutual benefit. > > Imagine http://Drive.FreeCulture.org as a competitor to > http://Drive.Google.com , but co-owned by we, the people. > > To say it is too expensive is to misunderstand, since Google covers > their Costs *AND* they collect Profit beyond the real Costs - while we > only need cover Costs. > > Am I missing something? > > Why will we not gather together to accomplish our goals? > > Sincerely, > Patrick Anderson > http://SocialSufficiencyCoalition.BlogSpot.com > _______________________________________________ > Discuss mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.freeculture.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss > FAQ: http://wiki.freeculture.org/Fc-discuss _______________________________________________ Discuss mailing list [email protected] http://lists.freeculture.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss FAQ: http://wiki.freeculture.org/Fc-discuss
