Hit a NYT blog:
http://mediadecoder.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/06/19/npr-intern-gets-an-earful-after-blogging-about-11000-songs-almost-none-paid-for/




On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 2:29 PM, Karl Fogel <[email protected]>wrote:

> [Unifying two threads here by adding QCO discuss@ list as a recipient --
> we'd been discussing this over there too.]
>
> So, Nina Paley just pointed out that the wonderful (and fast) Mike
> Masnick of Techdirt has posted this quick response piece:
>
>
> http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120619/11493419390/david-lowery-wants-pony.shtml
>
> I really like Mike's response, but there's an important thing it doesn't
> do, which is turn the tables on David Lowery's morality argument.
>
> Masnick basically says "This is the new reality: get over it, and find a
> way to work in it, because you have no choice.  Asking for anything else
> is asking for a pony."  (Okay, I'm paraphrasing!)
>
> That's a useful message, but it's still essentially an amoral -- by
> which I do *not* mean "immoral" -- argument.  Yet I don't see any reason
> to cede the moral high ground to Lowery.  He's the one arguing against
> people sharing culture, and in favor of monopoly and control, after all.
>
> So despite Masnick's excellent job, I think there's a big opening for a
> deeper and explicitly anti-monopoly rebuttal here, and that it will get
> some traction.
>
> I'm sending this partly for Jennifer Baek's benefit, since she's working
> on a rebuttal (along with anyone else who wants to, of course).  Jen,
> Masnick's piece is worth reading, and maybe referring to, but I
> certainly don't think it says everything that could be said.
>
> Also, just to second what Alex Leavitt said: "Wow! I'm so glad to see
> the amazing discussion this has generated."  Absolutely!  David may have
> written a bad essay, but he's still generating something good...
>
> Best,
> -K
>
> Nate Otto <[email protected]> writes:
> >I'll take a look at the etherpad later, but I'd caution against doing
> >a whole point-by-point rebuttal of the letter. I think a concise
> >response focusing on just one or two main points would ultimately be
> >more effective. (But I'm no longer a student, and I can't say that I
> >speak for SFC, only as an independent supporter of free culture)
> >
> >The points that stood out for me as asking for response are first: the
> >main thrust that individuals have a responsibility to pay the
> >structures currently set up to support artists and petition the
> >government in support of the "property rights" framing that in turn
> >supports these entrenched players and to not question whether this all
> >makes sense in the context of the Internet, which is the best media
> >distribution system the world has ever seen.
> >
> >The second is:
> >"What the corporate backed Free Culture movement is asking us to do is
> >analogous to changing our morality and principles to allow the
> >equivalent of looting."
> >
> >Changing the metaphors underlying "culture as property" is a possible
> >outcome of the Free Culture movement. We are having a conversation
> >about how to have a free culture where artists can live happily.
> >Entrenched players may join in, but they have to realize that
> >"looting" is a word that comes out of their framing of the issue; we
> >may not accept that framing as what is needed to support a 21st C
> >(conected) culture.
> >
> >-Nate
> >
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