Hi Rich, I'll summarize for you about your particular site: were it not for any sort of gender problem and common prejudicial assumptions about who is the audience or who are the people within Free Culture, Free Software, then nobody would have any complaints about your site. You are not being called sexist particularly.
It is simply that in a world where there is, as Joseph points out, at least 9 out of 10 of us are perfectly welcoming, reasonable, respectful to all, the fact that the community may tolerate the 1 out of 10 who is a bit jerky and insensitive means that some people, in this case women, will avoid the community because they aren't interested in putting up with that one guy. In this context, things that reinforce certain cultural assumptions and stereotypes are brought up as potentially exacerbating where they might be more neutral out of this context. I don't know if your site was a fair example here, and it certainly comes across as one of the most benign elements in the presentation. I don't know why it's the thumbnail. Best, Aaron -- Aaron Wolf wolftune.com On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 12:39 AM, Rich Jones <[email protected]> wrote: > Hm.. my website is the thumbnail of this video. I don't have time to watch > this whole thing right now, but am totally willing to address any concerns > of sexism, either in public or in private. I very firmly believe in gender > equality. > > R > > > On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 9:18 PM, Aaron Wolf <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Thank for sharing this Zach! I am totally sympathetic to this issue. >> Reagle is totally justified here, but it goes far beyond Free Software / >> Free Culture worlds. These issues are ubiquitous in tons of areas >> throughout our society. And as someone both sensitive to these issues and >> also rejecting of inserting gender-focus into everything, I've ended up >> being hesitant to participate in *any* subculture or counter-culture >> community. The best respectful and fair community I've yet found is that of >> scientific mainstream academia, where there are still many issues. >> >> At my project, Snowdrift.coop, I intend to develop an honor system and >> code of ethics that really works to keep this issue out, to be welcoming to >> all folks except those who make the community less welcoming. >> >> Cheers, >> Aaron >> >> -- >> Aaron Wolf >> wolftune.com >> >> >> On Sat, Feb 23, 2013 at 7:58 PM, Alex Leavitt <[email protected]>wrote: >> >>> This talk to some people might actually be a bit frustrating. I know >>> that Reagle doesn't mean to say that women are not a part of geek culture, >>> but that's what the majority if not all of the talk focuses on, instead of >>> women are (at least) highly active in a different part of the free culture >>> movement, even if they're a minority (and there are issues with software >>> culture in treating them as a minority). Mainly, I think that many of the >>> free-culture-ites in the fandom communities (for instance, most of the >>> people that make up the Organization for Transformative Works team, >>> http://transformativeworks.org/, and many of the participants in fan >>> art, fan fiction, and cosplay communities) would really rail against this >>> presentation because that aspect of free culture is not recognized in this >>> talk. >>> >>> Alex >>> >>> --- >>> >>> Alexander Leavitt >>> PhD Student >>> USC Annenberg School for Communication & Journalism >>> http://alexleavitt.com >>> Twitter: @alexleavitt >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sat, Feb 23, 2013 at 8:25 AM, Zach McDowell >>> <[email protected]>wrote: >>> >>>> Hello everyone, >>>> >>>> I did a Camtasia recording of last night's lecture by Joseph Reagle >>>> that I think you all might be interested in. The first part of it is sort >>>> of an overview (for a wide audience) by the latter part is an interesting >>>> discussion about Free Culture and FOSS/FLOSS and gender gap issues. >>>> >>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_mdjPZIuqU&feature=youtu.be >>>> >>>> >>>> best, >>>> >>>> Zach >>>> >>>> ---------------------- >>>> Zachary J. McDowell >>>> Doctoral Candidate >>>> Department of Communication >>>> University of Massachusetts, Amherst >>>> >>>> Wikipedia Teaching >>>> Fellow<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:United_States_Education_Program/Courses/Writing_As_Communication_Spring_2012> >>>> Managing Editor: communication +1<http://www.communicationplusone.org/> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Discuss mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> http://lists.freeculture.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss >>>> FAQ: http://wiki.freeculture.org/Fc-discuss >>>> >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Discuss mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://lists.freeculture.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss >>> FAQ: http://wiki.freeculture.org/Fc-discuss >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Discuss mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.freeculture.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss >> FAQ: http://wiki.freeculture.org/Fc-discuss >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Discuss mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.freeculture.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss > FAQ: http://wiki.freeculture.org/Fc-discuss > >
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