Patrick, asking how Snowdrift.coop will *pay* for the free software is not
all all a delicate question. The *central point* of our system is to be a
mechanism for *funding* these things! That's the essence of our platform.
We just are adding other things because we believe we need a holistic
system and too much emphasis on money discourages community/social focus.

Check out the site. My primary goal right now is to build the community
starting from the most dedicated people outward. Those most dedicated folks
will help get us through to functional stage and then things will grow from
there and be an example of complete freedom.

Cheers,
Aaron

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Aaron Wolf
wolftune.com


On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 6:58 PM, Patrick Anderson <[email protected]>wrote:

> > We believe that the starting point indeed needs
> > to be 100% Free/Libre and not rely on things
> > like Google Hangout; but we also believe that
> > the solution is to make the Free/Libre things
> > also superior products so there's no temptation
> > And our system is meant to solve that.
>
> That is great news.
>
> But could I ask a delicate question?...
>
> How will we pay to *host* that free software.
>
> For example, there is plenty of Free chat software to replace Google
> Hangouts, but we do not know how share the costs of the hardware needed to
> *host* that software, and so remain in isolation.
>
> The difficulty of sharing hardware may be the most important problem we
> face.
>
> For example, if we could share hardware such as the factories that make
> computers, we could have DRM free hardware.
>
> You may think it is impossible to own such large things, but the truth is
> that we *already* pay for them.
>
> We, the users pay all the costs of production and even more when we pay
> profit, so it is easy to see we could afford to do so.
>
> Once we learn to share hardware, we can offer Free-As-In-Freedom email
> servers and Fakebook replacements and video hosting and generally
> everything that cloud computing will soon be solving.
>
> If we refuse to learn how to share hardware, the gains in software Freedom
> will become less and less important as those who own the hardware will be
> able to use Free Software and Free Designs against us because we did not
> organize for our own, mutual benefit.
>
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