Just a note on the earlier poster's "security breach" comment:

>for anyone to call this a security issue is a bit of a
>stretch from my vantage point and is unaware of wireless operation in
>unlicensed bands..

My first reaction was similar, but upon further reflection I realized that many 
schools of the art consider threats to network availability and reliability, 
such as a denial of service attack, which this certainly resembled, as a 
security issue, fwiw.

>-----Original Message-----
>From: WWWhatsup [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Friday, July 27, 2007 04:08 PM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [email protected]
>Subject: [Discuss] Re: Fwd: A new class of network vulnerability???
>
>From: Christian Kuhtz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Date: July 25, 2007 12:15:56 PM EDT
>
>
>so, I'm not sure I follow here, but given that I live and breathe
>wireless LANs in my day job, I feel compelled to respond to the
>previous poster.
>
>This is wireless we're talking about. Unlicensed spectrum in the 2.4
>GHz ISM & GHz 5.8 band. Once you pass regulatory muster for the
>radio equipment, virtually everything else is fair game. And what is
>observed / contemplated here is just a fact of life in this
>business. It is up to manufacturers (and operators) to define
>requirements and evolve to manage this inevitable part of our
>business. There is no cure per se. And this is far from the only
>issue.
>
>The countermeasure for issues like the one that appears to be at the
>cause of the issue experienced at Duke is in well designed equipment
>and infrastructure design choices which manage harmful traffic (and
>the definition of harmful really is a deployment and operator
>specific question and the answers vary greatly).
>
>And I think there are still some questions outstanding as to what
>exactly happened at Duke within the network infrastructure. That is
>in addition to what is published at
>
>http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc4436.txt
>
>for the actual mechanism blamed for this symptom, Cisco's security
>advisory at
>
>http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/707/cisco-sa-20070724-arp.shtml
>
>and finally the actual bug report (only available to Cisco support
>contract holders) at
>
>http://tools.cisco.com/Support/BugToolKit/search/getBugDetails.do? 
>method=fetchBugDetails&bugId=CSCsj50374
>
>or
>
>http://tinyurl.com/2d3ofy
>
>In closing, for anyone to call this a security issue is a bit of a
>stretch from my vantage point and is unaware of wireless operation in
>unlicensed bands.
>
>Best regards,
>Christian
>
>
>
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