Hi,

I'm responding to a few things in this post.

First, I took a look at Bryan's example pages.  The problem you see on the second page (where isortables.js has been included, but no Sortables have been declared) that throws the error "jQuery.iSort.helper.get is not a function"; I've had this problem too even before the Sep. 11 patch.  The problem is that when isortables has been included, then draggables attempts to execute the line:

jQuery.iSort.helper.get(0).style.display = 'none'

when dragging over a droppable to hide the sortable helper.  But since you never called Sortables this variable is just the boolean value false.  It only gets initialized when something is made Sortable.  That's why on your third page, where you make something Sortable, that problem doesn't occur anymore.  I think this is probably just a bug.  Either draggables shouldn't attempt to hide the helper field if it hasn't been initialized (this is easy to do since the value is false by default.  I did this on my local build and it seems to work), or including isortables.js should initialize the field even if nothing has been declared as Sortable.

Second, thanks Stefan for adding the functionality that allows Sortables to accept draggables even if they didn't originate from a sortable container.  This solves the problem I was having.  And I really like how I can now drag items from outside the sortable container, and it shows where the item will be dropped.  It's great.  I do agree with Bryan though that not everyone will want this, so maybe there could be a switch to turn it off?  I'm not sure how hard that would be.  Anyway, I tried disabling it by just changing the class name of the draggables to something that Sortables doesn't accept, and that works just fine.  Hopefully that helps for now.

The only problem I have now when working with your demo page (sorry for being nit picky, it's just that my users are picky so I have to be!), is that when I pick up a draggable, it is removed from the other draggables (this also happens on Bryan's third test page).  This is fine, it's the default behavior.  When I add ghosting : true to the draggable config, it still gets removed.  But when I hover over the sortable container it does show a copy of the draggable, instead of the normal empty helper.  This is the behavior I would normally expect from adding ghosting : true to the sortable config.  But actually, adding ghosting : true to the sortable config doesn't have any effect.

Other than that, the new functionality is great!  Bryan, I hope the workaround I mentioned for the new stuff helps (I still agree though that a switch to turn it on and off would be nice).

Regards,
Brendan

On 9/16/06, Stefan Petre < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi,

The sortable is composed from draggables and droppables, this way I
reused code. I made an example for you. Tell if this is what are you
trying to do
http://interface.eyecon.ro/demos/sort_example.html

Also, please download interface again because I improved a lot things there.

Stefan


bbuchs wrote:
> I posted earlier this week about a problem with Interface and the
> drag/drop/sort functionality. Someone pointed out that my example had an
> error in IE, so I went back to the drawing board to refactor the code. I've
> posted three demo pages that explain my problem:
>
> http://beta.bryanbuchs.com/index.html http://beta.bryanbuchs.com/index.html
> http://beta.bryanbuchs.com/index2.html
> http://beta.bryanbuchs.com/index2.html
> http://beta.bryanbuchs.com/index3.html
> http://beta.bryanbuchs.com/index3.html
>
> The first link demonstrates that my code isn't entirely wonky - draggables
> and droppables are working fine. In the second example, all I did was to
> include the "isortables" file, and everything goes haywire. In the last
> example, I actually create a sortable list; this stops one error from
> occuring, but introduces functionality that I think is just wrong.
>
> Stefan, I hope you're reading and can take a look at my examples.
>
> As I mentioned in my last post, I believe the problems stem from the Sept.
> 11 2006 modifications that were made; the big update was that a droppable
> dropped in a sortable becomes part of the sortable. In my opinion, a
> draggable is a draggable, a droppable is a droppable, and a sortable is a
> sortable. if you want to convert an element from one to the other, it should
> not happen automatically. If it's an option that can be passed, that's fine,
> but it should not be the default behaviour. I think my examples show why the
> auto-conversion is a bad idea.
>


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