> I hope you realize, that not really anyone, except when dealing with really 
> tiny apps, does that stuff by hand with PHP anymore? The new frameworks, 
> such as CakePHP have really brought the whole language to another level...
No I didn't realize that, but CF has several very good frameworks that 
also abstract the database work.
> ...And that's just for starters without even going into deeper stuff. 
>   
Barry (the original poster) made it clear that this language was to be 
used for very small apps with a max of 50 users. In a later post he said:

"We have no clients that are interested in the code. Clients want a working 
product, delivered on time. These will all be small new independant products, 
no API calls, no reuse."

So it seams that talk of frameworks is right out (at least that's the  vibe I 
get). 

> Feel free to say out your opinions, but please 
> try to refrain from giving out "advice" that might be outright wrong or 
> misleading.
I take minor offense to the above statement. I'm sorry, if my opinions 
and experience don't seem like advice to you... to the point that you 
feel like quoting it to drive the point home that you don't feel like 
it's worth anything. I realize that's not what you were trying to do, 
but I just can't let that slide.

> It's not good for you, the person asking the questions, or this 
> list for that matter.
>   
All opinions and view points should be heard. period. It's up to the 
poster to weed through and decide what points he wants to listen to. If 
it weren't for this thread there are a few ideas about php that I might 
not have learned. It's *always* good to hear from anyone and everyone 
who has something to say -- imo. :o)

As it stands from Barry's  last post, it seems like ColdFusion might not 
be an option since his company has just moved away from it. It's too 
bad, really. I mainly suggested it because of the possibility for them 
to leverage existing beans that his development team has already 
written, but it looks like they may not want to do that either.

It does surprise me a bit how many folks can't get passed the tag based 
syntax. But it's no matter, I couldn't stand it when I started using it 
either. Now I just realize that not liking the syntax was just my own 
hangup and really doesn't say anything about the language itself.
> And I'm definately not trying to flame anyone, apologies if I accidentally 
> did :)
>
>   
Don't sweat it. :o)

As a friend of mine just IM'd to me:
Happy Getting Fatter Day!

Cheers,
Chris

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