Hi Su, Everything you mentioned in *this* email is exactly what you should've stated from the get-go. This is the type of feedback that will help Gilles better a plugin thats truly needed by this community.
Again, if you read my initial reply to you, you'll see that what I'm asking is that people offer up constructive criticsm in order to help guide the direction of the project. Do you really feel that saying "this really /is/ a joke, right?" is in anyway constructive criticsm? In terms of being late to providing notes, we all have clients or work and its understandable if you can't immediately reply. Shoot man, you have to make a living and I understand that. But in the time it took you to post the original reply, you probably could've written most of the stuff the wrote in this email. I definitely don't want you to feel like I'm singling you out. Its definitely not about you. I just want to ensure that Gilles gets some good feedback to help him improve his work and that he also gets kudos for something that many on here, including myself, haven't even attempted yet and/or may not have the skills to accomplish. Rey... Su wrote: > I've already stated my appreciation for what the plugin will do(and does > so far) in the original announcement thread. I also offered money for it > once usable. I have a client project which would have been made more > pleasant by this. As it stands, though, I'm having to look at the > Prototype alternative. Besides knowing near-nothing about Prototype, I > just prefer the way jQuery works. > > The bright red text at the top of the page itself points out the major > issue: Severe lack of browser testing. That, coupled with suggesting > that people start using it in favor of a stable, tested alternative > while misrepresenting that alternative's use(Thickbox is /not/ just for > images) is yes, a joke. > The issue here isn't me saying this is crap. I'm not, and it's not; I'm > rather amazed. But the plugin is not ready for public use, eg: replacing > Thickbox. Do you actually think the original message's suggestion is a > valid consideration? I'm perfectly willing to offer what I can in the > way of testing and markup, once some goals are stated. The scripting > itself is probably already well beyond my abilities. > > If I've been late in providing notes, well, sorry, I have clients and > can probably devote even less time to this than Gilles himself, but here > we go: > > The plugin's first and third examples fail to launch(with errors) in my > copies of both IE6 and IE7. > The second does launch, but the text is unselectable. I doubt many > people will find that acceptable. > > IE5.5(why not, since browser goals aren't stated), produces identical > behavior, though the button rollovers are a little off. > > The examples fail altogether in Safari 2.0.4. Unacceptable. > > While the comments about table use are arguably valid, they're largely > unimportant compared to the simple fact that the plugin just plain > doesn't work in too many cases. > > It does seem a bit slow. I suppose it remains to be seen whether this is > just something that has to be dealt with, or if the code is unoptimized > given it's so early in development. > > Why can the links not fall back to something if JS is turned off? Is > that actually a requirement(which would be unfortunate), or just > something that hasn't been accounted for(yet)? > > > On 11/25/06, *Rey Bango* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> > wrote: > > Su, if you're going to make a comment like that, at least have the > courtesy to: > > 1) Cite the reasons that you feel his work isn't ready > 2) Offer up solutions or examples that could help him out in improving > his work > > Gilles is trying to provide functionality which really isn't available > to the jQuery community and it would be better if everyone provided some > sensible guidance instead of simply stating criticisms. Lets be helpful > here guys. > > Rey... > > Su wrote: > > On 11/25/06, *Webunity | Gilles van den Hoven* > <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>> wrote: > > > > And use my window plugin :) > > > > > > I realize there's a smiley on the end, but this really /is/ a joke, > > right? Your plugin frankly isn't anywhere near ready for public > use, as > > much as I wish it were. > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > jQuery mailing list > > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > > http://jquery.com/discuss/ > > _______________________________________________ > jQuery mailing list > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > http://jquery.com/discuss/ > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > jQuery mailing list > [email protected] > http://jquery.com/discuss/ _______________________________________________ jQuery mailing list [email protected] http://jquery.com/discuss/
