Actually, thats a damn good point, I use Google Maps on some of my websites, and yet I gave that answer to you, perhaps they're using Iframes? Anyone have an answer for this, now you got me interested!
- jake On 3/16/07, bruce <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
jake... if what you state is true. how does google/yahoo/flickr/etc... manage to allow 3rd party websites to access their hosted apis, which are resident on the hosted server of google/yahoo/etc.... -bruce -----Original Message----- *From:* Jake McGraw [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Friday, March 16, 2007 9:17 AM *To:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] *Subject:* Re: [jQuery] php - web service (ajax/jscript) Bruce, I believe, regardless of the website serving the Javascript file, AJAX will only interface with the server that actually served the entire document. What I suggest you do is provide clients with a PHP Script / HTML Template (Smarty is very good for this) with some AJAX Javascript. The PHP Script can contact your web service (you can use the PEAR SOAP/WSDL extensions or go for the full blown Tomcat/Apache config), serve whatever information you like back to the PHP Script and then back to the browser: Request Web Browser/AJAX -- (XML or JSON) --> Client Server/PHP/SOAP -- (XML) --> Your Server/(PHP or Tomcat) Return Your Server/(PHP or Tomcat) -- (XML) --> SOAP/PHP/Client Server -- (XML or JSON) --> AJAX/Web Browser So basically, your clients would need a web server that handles PHP and can make SOAP Requests, you would author the PHP/HTML template and release that as an "api". This is probably the best way to go about things because it allows non-web browsers user access to your Web Service and it keeps with the whole concept of what web services should truly be. - jake On 3/16/07, bruce <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Jake. > > Thanks for the reply. I'll try to clarify. (Keep in mind, I'm not an > experienced web developer!) > > As I understand Ajax, it's used to allow asynch interaction between client, > and hosted site that the client js file is fetched from. In other words, if > the client html/php has something to the effect: > > <html> > <script> > <src = 'http://www.homeserver.com/test.js' <http://www.homeserver.com/test.js%27>> > </html> > > Even though the client html/php might be on the 'foo' site > (www.foo.com/test.html), the test.js functionality is being served from the > 'homeserver.com' domain, and can therefore interface/communicate with the > 'homeserver'. This is what I want to accomplish, as it allows me to create > test servers/apps, and they can each communicate via the test api/web > service (on homeserver.com) with the homeserver web service. > > so i'm trying to get my hands around how to create/implement a test app to > demonstrate this. A rough overview is: > > Assume: > Master Server 3rd Party Server (separate domain) > App1 Test App > API File (aa.js) (from Master Server) > JScript (aa.js) ------>>-----------------^ > > The aa.js file allows the 3rd party client site to be able to interface > with > the Master Server API via the API/services defined in the API File. I'm > envisioning the following actions for the user > > 3rd Party Site Master Server > -User Enters Name >>>>>>>>>>>>>> api checks/verifies name > -gets response > Master Server <<<<<<<<<<<<<< returns response > -user answers > question based > on response, > sends response > to master server > via api >>>>>>>>>>>>>> api checks user input > -gets response > Master Server <<<<<<<<<<<<<< returns response > -jscript then > gives reply/response > to the 3rd Party site, > allowing the site/app > to continue processing > > In this case, the jscript/ajax app is really only communicating with the > Master Server, which if I understand it correctly would be in the same > domain as the ajax/jscript code. In other words, if the master server > supplies the jscript file(s) for the jscript that's to be run on the 3rd > party server, then any communication that's initiated from the jscript is > going back to the master server. There shouldn't be a cross domain issue? > Yes/No??? > > So I'm trying to find docs/help/information (someone to talk to) so I can > create a test app that accomplishes this kind of functionality. > > Thanks > > -Bruce > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jake McGraw [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, March 16, 2007 7:07 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; jQuery Discussion. > Subject: Re: [jQuery] php - web service (ajax/jscript) > > > Bruce: > > I'm not sure I fully understand what you are trying to accomplish, but > AJAX is not a replacement for SOAP/WSDL Web Services as it is strictly > limited to communication within its own domain, which flies in the > face of Web Services philosophy. > > Could you provide a more concise example of what you would like to do? > > - jake > > On 3/15/07, bruce <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi > > > > I'm trying to find information with regards to how to create/implement a > > test web services app. I'm trying to find pointers to anyone who's > actually > > created this kind of functionality, or pointers to web sites where I can > > find the information I'm looking for. > > > > For my test, App1 has the web service, and provides the jscript/ajax code > to > > the 3rd Party, for use on the Test App. I'm trying to find php code for > the > > apps on the web servers as well as test php code for the api on the Master > > Server. I'm also trying to get/find a test situation that provides test > > client code (jscript/ajax) to be implemented on the test server/app. > > > > Assume: > > Master Server 3rd Party Server (separate domain) > > App1 Test App > > API File (aa.js) (from Master Server) > > JScript (aa.js) ------>>-----------------^ > > > > The aa.js file allows the 3rd party client site to be able to interface > with > > the Master Server API via the API/services defined in the API File. I'm > > envisioning the following actions for the user > > > > 3rd Party Site Master Server > > -User Enters Name >>>>>>>>>>>>>> api checks/verifies name > > -gets response > > Master Server <<<<<<<<<<<<<< returns response > > -user answers > > question based > > on response, > > sends response > > to master server > > via api >>>>>>>>>>>>>> api checks user input > > -gets response > > Master Server <<<<<<<<<<<<<< returns response > > -jscript then > > gives reply/response > > to the 3rd Party site, > > allowing the site/app > > to continue processing > > > > In this case, the jscript/ajax app is really only communicating with the > > Master Server, which if I understand it correctly would be in the same > > domain as the ajax/jscript code. In other words, if the master server > > supplies the jscript file(s) for the jscript that's to be run on the 3rd > > party server, then any communication that's initiated from the jscript is > > going back to the master server. There shouldn't be a cross domain issue? > > Yes/No??? > > > > So, anyone who's actually implemented a real live web service, that's > > willing to talk to me would be helpful, or if you can point me to sample > > docs/code... > > > > Thanks > > > > -bruce > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > jQuery mailing list > > discuss@jquery.com > > http://jquery.com/discuss/ > > > >
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