Thanks for the writeup Loic. Quoth Benj. Mako Hill: > <quote who="Loic Dachary" date="Tue, Sep 08, 2009 at 08:29:09PM +0200"> > > There were less than ten people in the room and plenty of time to > > discuss. Two persons raised the issue of privacy and Mr Fitzpatrick > > said it was not in the scope of the project. > > If the goal of one's project is only to allow one to export one's > private data (e.g., the email one has sent or received), the privacy > problems are reduced and simplified.
I'm not sure I am clear on what privacy concerns you're talking about? How would a nicely exportable format of your data (behind some sort of login mechanism) raise any more concerns than having it presented by some web app in a less exportable format? Or are you refering more to the general privacy concerns with building infrastructure around private data being on others machines? > > My conclusion is that although the Data Liberation Front is apparently > > doing a useful job with regard to data export / import, it is not > > interested in the larger picture. Yes, as I see it, Google being friendly to data interchange between services is trying to be a good player in a modern, market-type approach, in which the best outcome for a 'consumer' is a choice of several competing platforms. The freedom to actually meaningfully be a part of the creation of a platform, and the ability to choose from multiple deployments (or create ones own) isn't factored in to most people's perspectives yet, let alone that of companies. The 'consumer' / 'user' vs 'producer' / 'developer' terminologies are quite unhelpful for moving the towards this. > The space around free network services is still complicated and in flux. > That's part of why it's so important to be clear about one's positions > and principles. It should be possible for even the most radical among us > to support and work with folks like DLF where our interests converge > while making it equally clear where our points of departure remain. Agreed. And you are right, I'm very glad to hear of DLF-type groups too. Regards, Nick -- GPG : 0x04E4653F 9732D7C7A441D79EFDF094F61F48567404E4653F
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