Hi,

Greg Wilson is the one to answer, but here is my recollection of the history. 
(Apologies if I got that all wrong, Greg…)

"Programming with Python” 
<http://swcarpentry.github.io/python-novice-inflammation> was built with a 
philosophy to get the learner to achieve something useful, in this case some 
visualisation, as early as possible in the lesson/workshop. Inspiration came 
from the Media Computation approach developed by Mark Guzdial (if I am not 
mistaken), see Porter et al: “Success in Introductory Programming: What Works?” 
<https://carpentries.github.io/instructor-training/files/papers/porter-what-works-2013.pdf>
 However, not many people know what that inflammation data is about, and many 
felt the approach did not work optimally - there is a lot of ‘magic' happening 
in the beginning - Numpy and Numpy arrays, 2D slicing and plotting all come in 
the first episode.
 
Greg then set out to develop a lesson that is more along the lines of ’teach 
concepts, and apply them, in an increasing order of complexity and usefulness’. 
This became "Plotting and Programming with Python” 
<http://swcarpentry.github.io/python-novice-gapminder/>. See the design 
rationale here: http://swcarpentry.github.io/python-novice-gapminder/design/ 
<http://swcarpentry.github.io/python-novice-gapminder/design/>. This lesson 
still needs some work to become fully mature (if I am not mistaken).

Hope that helps!

        Lex



> On 21 May 2019, at 10:43, Valters, Declan A. <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
>  
> Does anyone know the origin/philosophy behind the two separate Python core 
> lessons in the software carpentry workshops: i.e. "Programming with Python" 
> vs "Plotting and Programming with Python". Understand the latter is aimed at 
> Jupyter users specifically, and introduces Pandas early on rather the Numpy, 
> but it also has slightly different content in other ways too.
>  
> Or if anyone has experience in teaching both of them and can offer their 
> thoughts/feedback?
>  
> (Did spend some time searching the github issues and swc site to see if there 
> was any fundamental reason/motivation for having the two separate courses.)
>  
> Cheers,
> Declan
> 
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