Agreed, Ben. I'd like to add that instructors should feel free to combine the sample data they wish to use in a file/folder tailored to their workshop and post it (on GitHub, for example) for participants to download.
Uwe ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Uwe Hilgert, Ph.D. Associate Research Professor Director of Industry Relations, STEM Training & Workforce Development BIO5 Institute, The University of Arizona (O) 520-626-1367 | (F) 520-626-4824 (E) [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> | (W) http://www.bio5.org<http://www.bio5.org/> ________________________________ From: Ben Tovar <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 4:39 AM To: discuss <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [discuss] RE: Same sample data? One issue of having a single zip with sample data is that it becomes difficult to update a lesson, as one change may have to be propagated to multiple unrelated lessons that you may not necessarily know about. I also find that it is a good test for someone's proficiency. Either they can download and unzip the files easily such that it does not affect the workshop, or they don't, in which case they get some practice with helpers around. -- Ben Tovar Research Software Engineer Department of Computer Science and Eng. University of Notre Dame On Tue, Oct 29, 2019 at 6:24 PM McGranahan, Jamen L <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Correct – the downloadable sample data. For example, in the Software Carpentry: Unix - http://swcarpentry.github.io/shell-novice/data/data-shell.zip Programming with Python - http://swcarpentry.github.io/python-novice-inflammation/data/python-novice-inflammation-data.zip & http://swcarpentry.github.io/python-novice-inflammation/code/python-novice-inflammation-code.zip Plotting & Programming in Python - http://swcarpentry.github.io/python-novice-gapminder/files/python-novice-gapminder-data.zip Programming with R: http://swcarpentry.github.io/r-novice-inflammation/data/r-novice-inflammation-data.zip 5 different Zip files with sample data – just in the Software Carpentry. I’d like to have one pull of data to analyze and test on. Does this make sense? Jamen McGranahan Associate Director of Library Technology & Digital Services Jean and Alexander Heard Libraries, Vanderbilt University 615-343-1614 | [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> he/his/him From: Brooks Kieffer, Elizabeth Jamene <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2019 4:44 PM To: discuss <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Subject: [discuss] RE: Same sample data? Hi Jamen, I’m not sure what you’re referring to with “the same sample data” but am assuming that you’re talking about the combined sample data for a full workshop – Unix, Git, and programming language. It can be a pain to make sure that learners download several zip files for each part of the lesson. What we do, which I blatantly copied from the University of Oklahoma, is maintain a separate GitHub repository that contains all of the data learners need for a SWC workshop. One of the first things we do in a workshop is ask the learners to clone this repo down to their local machines. We do this with a live coding example that’s also pasted into the Etherpad. No one is expected to know what they’re doing at this point in the lesson. This preliminary step tests their Git installs and ensures that everyone is beginning the workshop with the same directory structure and sample data files. You can take a look at the repo here: https://github.com/kulibraries/ku-swc-files<https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Fkulibraries%2Fku-swc-files&data=02%7C01%7Cjamen.mcgranahan%40vanderbilt.edu%7Ce44975287f0640cf18de08d75cb980c3%7Cba5a7f39e3be4ab3b45067fa80faecad%7C0%7C1%7C637079824118538141&sdata=FLuOiDaRobZrf8KsJyrRdgO6JCVt6juKuCehzQ9Jv4E%3D&reserved=0> Hope this helps, Jamene Jamene Brooks-Kieffer Data Services Librarian University of Kansas Libraries 785-864-5238 [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> she/her/hers From: McGranahan, Jamen L <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2019 1:53 PM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: [discuss] Same sample data? As a new instructor - and one who just taught SC: Unix last Friday - I was wondering about the sample data that is being used. It seems it would make more sense if we used the same sample data instead of having to download a separate zip file for each. I realize that will take some work to do, though, but I do see a lot of benefit from this. Am I out of my mind? 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