On Nov 5, 2012, at 1:39 PM, Philip Brown <[email protected]> wrote:
> When I consider whether or not to donate my very scarce time to a free
> project, one of the things I take into consideration, is how well the
> project is organized. I, and probably some others, deem a poorly
> organized project, to be a waste of my time, and so in those cases, I
> invest my time more wisely elsewhere.
This is a perfectly reasonable point of view.
I have no doubt that we can improve what we're doing here. I would be very
interested in hearing concrete suggestions for how to do that, understanding
that still nobody is "obligated" to do anything with respect to illumos, and
that until we have funding to pay someone a salary, it will be very difficult
to create such an obligation. (Btw, if any individual wants to step up to help
"program manage" the illumos bugs and help us avoid the issues falling through
the cracks, please reach out to me. This is a great way for a non-developer to
contribute meaningfully.)
That said, I think you'd be very hard pressed to find any open source OS
project that is doing a substantially better job here.
We have over 3000 defects submitted against illumos. Tracking them all is
probably really more than a full time job. That said, I know that a bunch of
us do periodically check the bugs being filed, and tend to the most relevant
and pressing issues. (Big kudos to Richard Lowe here, who frankly does the
lion's share here.)
I have been doing some thinking for some things we can do "process" wise, and
one idea is to allow users to "vote" on issues, and that might help ensure that
the hottest issues rise to the most visibility. I don't know if redmine can
support this, though. I'm interested in hearing other specific ideas, as well.
This still won't solve the issue where a single submitters most important issue
gets no attention from the other developers. In fact, part of our shared ethos
for illumos (expressed with developer council) is that stuff that goes in the
-gate should be stuff that we all agree is "generally" useful. So if a
change/feature only is interesting to a single person, then it probably doesn't
qualify for inclusion anyway. (Whether recv -x fits this bill or not is
unclear to me.)
Btw, I think its probably better if we take this discussion *off* of the ZFS
list, and move it to discuss@, so I've changed the recipient list accordingly.
- Garrett
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